I dunno. I'm hoping that, because he said it in English, something was lost in translation and 'deserve' wasn't quite the word he meant. I hope.
now it's happened once it'll happen again and again.
This is the part that worries me the most. If it had been closer to the end of the season, if Fernando had been leaps and bounds ahead in the points, what happened wouldn't have bothered me anywhere near as much. I still despise team orders to the point where sometimes I wish it wasn't a team sport, but it would have been so much easier to understand. Now I have no idea of Felipe's true place in Ferrari for the rest of his career. If they were willing to make him do that, as you said on July 25th of all days...
To be honest, I don't feel anybody at Ferrari was happy with what happened. Probably felt as if they had to do it to save their chances for the championship. Doesn't make it better, though. :(
The points difference between Fernando and Felipe was not significant enough to warrant making the swap, IMHO. If the race had finished as it looked like it was going to, both drivers would still have a fair chance of gunning for the WDC instead of only one. Apparently this is how Ferrari plays a team game...
Felipe deserved a victory today. Sure Fernando was a "little bit" faster, but that's irrelevant. Felipe was in front on the track. Seb set the fastest lap so one could argue he was faster than the both of them, but Seb didn't deserve to win today. Felipe did.
I suppose we'll never know if Seb would have caught up with/passed the Ferraris with Felipe in front. As far as I could tell from the laptimes he wasn't catching them at enough of a rate for it to be a big concern. But there we go.
Also I thought it was pretty stupid of the BBC to spend a 90 minute Forum in the STR area and just end up talking to RBR people as usual.
I think my point was that it doesn't matter who was fastest - what matters on track is who's in front. Felipe was in front, therefore, it was his victory. Had Fernando found a way past without doing a seb crashing into him, it would have been his victory.
AND OMG I AM ANNOYED AT THE BBC. I love Seb and Christian, no lie, but they need to GTFO my TV sometimes. >:|
I think today was a really tough day for Massa, and I really feel for him. Earlier in the year I said that I thought it would take one good race to give him back his mojo, for him to truely be "back" to his old self. Today should have been that day. The fact it was the anniversary of his accident just makes it even more poinent.
But I also think that at this stage of the season it was the right decision for Ferrari. I do not like Alonso as much as Massa, I would inifitely prefer him to win the next Ferrari WC. But I am a Ferrari fan, and have been for 15 years and thats what loyalty is about; they stuck by him after his accident, signed a 2 year deal without hesitation, (would McLaren? Even Williams? Would they have even paused as they stepped over his corpse?) You have to take the rough with the smooth and never bad mouth your team - which, like the hero he is, he never has.
Massa did the right thing, and Ferrari will rememeber it. He played the long game and his day will come.
That is the part I cannot comprehend. If Felipe had been allowed to defend his position and had gone on to win, Fernando and Felipe would be on 116 and 92 points respectively, both of them still with a reasonable chance of winning the WDC, with Felipe's chances still more remote than Fernando's. What if Fernando now has a similar run of bad luck to Felipe, what if he doesn't score for a few rounds through no fault of his own? Surely keeping both of them in the frame is less risky for the team than only one of them?
Rewarding a driver's unwavering loyalty by handing him a contract then kicking him in the teeth on such a massively significant day is not how you strengthen a team. Felipe's day should have been on Sunday. Now it seems his day will come only if fate and Ferrari allow it to.
I guess that just the problem with "what if?"s - what if they decide that McLaren can't race ever cos grey is a horrible colour *fingers crossed
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I never bother with Twitter [can't get my head round it] but as soon as the first transmission happened I went looking for yours. I was almost tempted to make an account just to agree with your post, too.
I spent hours last night on the 606 forums debating with people. The vast majority thought Ferrari were wrong and Felipe had been treated badly, but there were still some who couldn't see the problem, or various other intricacies.
Anyway. Yeah. Why the fuck doesn't he deserve a victory now? He has deserved one for a very long time. It's taken a lot to get his mojo back, and I was proper excited during this race for the first time in ages, seeing him get third and then run into the lead [and I knew the start would be good, his always are] and then to have it just taken away from him, halfway through the season, not even like it's the end...UGH
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The revised points system meant Felipe's championship position looked worse than it was. For Ferrari to have written off his championship chances smacks of outright stupidity and complacency that Fernando couldn't possibly have a similar bad run of luck in the future. You just cannot put all your eggs in one basket barely halfway through the season
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now it's happened once it'll happen again and again.
This is the part that worries me the most. If it had been closer to the end of the season, if Fernando had been leaps and bounds ahead in the points, what happened wouldn't have bothered me anywhere near as much. I still despise team orders to the point where sometimes I wish it wasn't a team sport, but it would have been so much easier to understand. Now I have no idea of Felipe's true place in Ferrari for the rest of his career. If they were willing to make him do that, as you said on July 25th of all days...
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To be honest, I don't feel anybody at Ferrari was happy with what happened. Probably felt as if they had to do it to save their chances for the championship. Doesn't make it better, though. :(
Poor Felipe.
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Also I thought it was pretty stupid of the BBC to spend a 90 minute Forum in the STR area and just end up talking to RBR people as usual.
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AND OMG I AM ANNOYED AT THE BBC. I love Seb and Christian, no lie, but they need to GTFO my TV sometimes. >:|
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But I also think that at this stage of the season it was the right decision for Ferrari. I do not like Alonso as much as Massa, I would inifitely prefer him to win the next Ferrari WC. But I am a Ferrari fan, and have been for 15 years and thats what loyalty is about; they stuck by him after his accident, signed a 2 year deal without hesitation, (would McLaren? Even Williams? Would they have even paused as they stepped over his corpse?) You have to take the rough with the smooth and never bad mouth your team - which, like the hero he is, he never has.
Massa did the right thing, and Ferrari will rememeber it. He played the long game and his day will come.
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Rewarding a driver's unwavering loyalty by handing him a contract then kicking him in the teeth on such a massively significant day is not how you strengthen a team. Felipe's day should have been on Sunday. Now it seems his day will come only if fate and Ferrari allow it to.
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I spent hours last night on the 606 forums debating with people. The vast majority thought Ferrari were wrong and Felipe had been treated badly, but there were still some who couldn't see the problem, or various other intricacies.
Anyway. Yeah. Why the fuck doesn't he deserve a victory now? He has deserved one for a very long time. It's taken a lot to get his mojo back, and I was proper excited during this race for the first time in ages, seeing him get third and then run into the lead [and I knew the start would be good, his always are] and then to have it just taken away from him, halfway through the season, not even like it's the end...UGH ( ... )
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