i don't get it guys

Oct 01, 2006 17:28

As a Zutara fan, I know that fans can get so damn annoying. We look so much into an episode in search for hints that might let us know that it'll happen in the future. And we fight to the very end to prove that Zutara can still happen ( Read more... )

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steotrron October 2 2006, 01:07:29 UTC
It's not just Zutara shippers. It's Maiko and Soko shippers as well. All three of our ships are grabbing onto this tale, saying that Zuko pulled away because he was thinking of Katara/Mai/Song, which is bullshit. His reason for pulling away was probably because he doesn't want to get attatched to a girl in Ba Sing Se, or he's just not used to such an intimate interaction.

Some facial expressions of Jin did remind me of Katara, but other than that, I saw no reference to Zutara whatsoever. If you want to count the lit up lanterns on water as a hint, go ahead.

Really, there aren't any hints or foreshadowing for any of the three ships. It was just a story that gave birth to a new ship: Jinko.
Which I secretly admire from afar.

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little_fool October 2 2006, 01:18:34 UTC
All three of our ships are grabbing onto this tale, saying that Zuko pulled away because he was thinking of Katara/Mai/Song...

LMAO That's such a wonderful thing to think about. And yes, I agree, it is bullshit. :/

Like I said, I don't think this episode had anything related to Zutara, I don't know why a lot of fans say it is. O_o I guess it's just them being hopeful.

it's so pretty. i love it, too. ♥

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steotrron October 2 2006, 01:30:48 UTC
In some cases, Zutarians are like little rats scavenging for cheese. Even if it's a little bit spoiled, we'll take it anyway. We try to scavenge for any evidence we can find; I've done it countless times meself.
WHAT?! IS STEO BASHING HER OWN OTP!!! NO.

I'm not sure I should feel sorry or feel happy for Jinko. One hand, all the ships that support Zuko with another woman are pissed off and annoyed. On the other, a lot of shippers like Jinko, and ship on the side, even if they don't want to admit it.

I really think Zutara has a chance on becoming canon. Not to our dirty level, though (lol). It's just that some fans just took this episode as a hint towards Zutara, which it wasn't.

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little_fool October 2 2006, 01:52:23 UTC
Yes, that's what make Zutara so fun to ship! We find a teeny tiny hint and we discuss it and HOPE TO HIGH HEAVEN that, yes, it's Zutara and that it's one more clue telling us that it'll happen.

I think it's sorta like "I want Zuko to be happy, but with _____", which is how I feel. A lot of the fans that ship Zuko with Mai/Katara/Song/etc. are furious and ABSOLUTELY REFUSE to believe that Jinko will push through the surface, but yet they somehow admit it's cute. It's almost like they want to give-in but they don't. :/

Haha, I think that too. But I don't wanna get my hopes up only to be disappointed in the end; which is why I don't lie to myself by saying that Jinko = Zutara.

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flutie2891 October 2 2006, 03:39:07 UTC
I, too, saw no Zutara in Zuko's tale, unless you feel like grasping at straws and count the whole fire fountain thing; but the super-shippers have to fine some Zutara in every episode, so I suppose we'll just have to deal with it. I join you in loving the ship to death, but our people need to learn to pick our battles. --' Patience, guys. We have a season and a half to get our version of Cave of Two Lovers...

Jinko... is a mixed bag to me. No comment.

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little_fool October 2 2006, 22:16:55 UTC
Personally, the lanterns on the water don't count since he lit those up for Jin. The Jinko crosses out the Zutara-- we get ZERO HINTS for this ep. D:

srsly. zutara will happen, we just have to sit back and wait for the magic to happen. i mean-- mike and bryan wouldn't let us down, right?

XD

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flutie2891 October 2 2006, 22:46:05 UTC
Like I said, if you wanna s t r e t c h it, it kinda works.

Of course they wouldn't! Everyone knows Bryan is a closet Zutara shipper- he'll take care of us. It's going to happen, in its own special, steamy way. Yeah, right. X)

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<33 little_fool October 2 2006, 22:49:39 UTC
Pssh, WHATAVER. XD

indeed! and if it doesn't happen, we can always count on an angry mob located outside their homes. we'll kill their family and friends if we have to!

YOU DON'T MESS WITH US.

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OT: I MISS YOU AMOR! kawaii_lyn October 2 2006, 04:08:31 UTC
Wow I've been out of it. I didn't even hear about those idiotic theories. (lucky me.) Let's all be ZUTARA HOMG OTP!shh! closet Jinko shippers TOGETHER♥! xD She was really sweet and cute, how could you not like her?

I kind of saw it, and stated in the chat, that his date with her was preparing him for Katara. xD You know, the poor boy needs at least SOME experience before taking on the woman he loves. Homg have you seen 40-year old virgin? Reminds me of a line in that in case you haven't.

So while the Jinko ship itself doesn't = Zutara, (cause it can't...that'd be...weird.) I'm glad Jinko existed, even if it short and sweet and totally against all that is Zutara; I found it as a GREAT opportunity for a favorite firebender to mature; to live a little; to finally get laid get some experience with the ladies ( ... )

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DID loveroftheflame GIVE YOU MY MESSAGE?! <333 little_fool October 2 2006, 22:22:39 UTC
I...stated in the chat, that his date with her was preparing him for Katara.

Yeah, that's pretty much the only reasonable "zutara" hint I've heard. But even then that's kinda iffy. I don't think it prepared him for anything. We saw was that he wants some lovin', but that he's not prepared for it; thus the "it's complicated" statement. He needs to realize that not everyone is out to hurt him.

d00d, Iroh so pimped Zuko. Haha.

I watched the '40-year old Virgin'-- what's the line? I WANT TO KNOW.

I miss you so much. ♥ Damn college. D<

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JFKLSJ WHAT MESSAGE? Oh...wait; if you wanted to sleep with me, YOU don't need to leave a message xD kawaii_lyn October 3 2006, 00:39:46 UTC
Yah, that's true. But that's just me justifying my loyalty to my number one ship WHILE still supporting in a crazy and nonsensical way my love for Jinko. No one heard that...shh!

But alas, you do have a point. I only wish we were at the chat at the same time to discuss it. Damn your curfew and damn that church party I had to go to.

With an uncle like that, who needs pick up lines? xD

OH YOU DID!? The one where they were like, "Dude...you can't have your first time with the woman you love! You'll suck. You need to get some practice first, some experience. That way, you won't disappoint her." (Something along those lines. This was my mentality of Zuko + Jin = Kiss ---> time ---> Zutara...sorta♥. xD

I miss you too! jkfldsjfkl I hate it for taking up my time. It's really easy for me, it's just...so fucking time consuming my gawd. I just finished two exams, three projects, and now have five more projects, and prepping for the mid-term exams. I'm just like, WTF? I JUST FINISHED MY EXAMS/PROJECTS? YOU'RE GIVING ME MORE!!??? Rich bastards ( ... )

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grr! I TOLD HER TO TELL YOU THAT "I MISS YOU BABY FROM KAT". but i guess she forgot DD': little_fool October 3 2006, 01:17:27 UTC
DON'T LET ANYONE KNOW YOU'RE A TRAITOR. zutara's #1 w00t!1

"Dude...you can't have your first time with the woman you love! You'll suck. You need to get some practice first, some experience. That way, you won't disappoint her."

AHAHA. I don't remember that line, but! it does make sense. Yes, I BELIEVE YOU NOW.

Practice makes perfect, and Zuko must be an A+ kisser by the time he's with Katara. XD

You knwo what? The day of the chat I violated my curfew to see if you were going to stop by in time for me to confess my undying love for you, but you never came. I became saddened and left (after telling loveroftheflame my message). DD:

OH GOD. WHY ARE YOU PUNISHING ME?!

Hmm, your odd yet convincing advertising does sound quite delicious. I'LL DO IT. But how do you set up comment alert? I disabled it and forgot how to set it up. :/

HELP ME BABY

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jcflygurl October 2 2006, 04:47:24 UTC
When I first saw "Zuko's Tale", I was absolutely fuming. I ranted at EVERYONE and EVERYTHING and wanted to kill the wench. After calming down however, I thought of a explanation and theory to reassure myself and assuage the enraged Zutarian within. XD

The entire "Tales of Ba Sing Se" is, in my mind, solely for character development. None of what we saw really has anything to do with the current plotline, except for maybe Momo's, and even that's doubtful because I don't think it'll him that finds Appa (it'll be Zuko Aang). We caught a glimpse of Toph's softer, more vulnerable side, we witnessed Iroh's sorrow and the subsequent life philosophy caused by it, we watched Sokka exhibit a bit of intellectual and creative ability, and we saw Momo display human emotions and characteristics such as loyalty and compassion. With the skilled writers that Avatar has, why in the world would Zuko's story be the only one that has any heavy impact on future plot developments? His story is just like the others: for character development only. We see ( ... )

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little_fool October 2 2006, 22:38:42 UTC
I think all Zutara fans ran around in circles cursing Jin's very existance. I know I did, then I re-watched the episode and decided she isn't so bad. XP

Although I seriously doubt that Jin will become a main character, I don't think this is the last we'll see of her. I do think that something is going to happen to her that will cause some sort of huge event to go off. Either she is involved with the Dai Li, or something *serious* will happen to her. We are, after all, just a few episodes off from the Season Finale.

Jin seems to be a plot-development character, just like Jet. I think she's going to be an impact to not only Zuko but the entire Gang.

And... that's it! :D

After Jin dies or whatever, Katara will console Zuko and have many of his babies. Yay!

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jakia October 8 2006, 18:39:33 UTC
What made it seem Zutara-like is that a lot of [zutara] fanfics have Zuko acting exactly as he did in the episode. We were all happy we had his characterization down right.

I think that was it. I dunno, there might've been something else.

And whoever said he pulled away because he was thinking of Song/Mai/Katara/Yue/Toph/Appa, is dumb. That has got to be the stupidest thing I've heard all week.

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little_fool October 9 2006, 04:14:18 UTC
That's true, but I thought he was a little OOC ._. I mean-- WHO KISSES A GIRL AFTER KNOWING HER A FEW HOURS?

cough.

People were saying the fire lanterns on the water, but that's just pathetic.

Haha. It is. Mai/Song/Katara were the last thing on his mind. lol appa?!

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jakia October 9 2006, 11:58:39 UTC
I think he pulled away in shock from actually being kissed, then his mind went Oh shit! and then he kissed her to kinda make up for it.

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