Marshall Scholarship/life at Cornell/life at Oxford (80s/90s)

Sep 22, 2014 23:30

Timeline: starts at Cornell in '89, Marshall Scholar in '93 ( Read more... )

1980-1989, usa: education: higher education, uk: education, 1990-1999

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niyazi_a September 23 2014, 02:35:17 UTC
I'm curious where you got this idea that Cornell is some shit-tier school someone would be less-than-thrilled to get accepted to. I speak, incidentally, AS a Cornell alumna, who does not consider myself or my education in any way inferior to Harvard. Especially in terms of Poli Sci, our department has been toe-to-toe with Harvard.

That aside, the major you're looking for is Government. Here's the webpage. Freshmen live in 1960s-era dorms, where you are paired up with someone else. Getting a single is almost impossible, and RAs will definitely kaibosh any sort of living arrangement of non-paying non-students. I know it's pre 9-11 but security and safety of students did still matter! I remember being challenged several times entering dorms to visit my friends. Each building had an external lock so the girlfriend would not have a key. These keys are marked definitively that they are not to be copied. So either they'd have to coordinate schedules REALLY well, so that whichever of them had the key was back when the other needed ( ... )

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reddon666 September 23 2014, 08:39:22 UTC
Oh, I know it's definitely an Ivy. (g) He was just expecting HYP.

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orthent September 25 2014, 02:12:10 UTC
I'm curious where you got this idea that Cornell is some shit-tier school someone would be less-than-thrilled to get accepted to. I speak, incidentally, AS a Cornell alumna, who does not consider myself or my education in any way inferior to Harvard. Especially in terms of Poli Sci, our department has been toe-to-toe with Harvard.

I think that it's only a certain kind of hypercompetitive student who has that attitude--you know, the kind of person who regards an SAT score of 2200 as mediocre, and their parents probably started scoping out preschools right after the ultrasound, jockeying for a slot in the one that would give their kid the best chance of getting into Brown. It's ridiculous and unfounded, but there does seem to be a certain amount of snobbery there that equates competitiveness in admissions with quality.

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reddon666 September 25 2014, 12:24:53 UTC
"you know, the kind of person who regards an SAT score of 2200 as mediocre"

Given I also have this character as complaining over his ACT score of 35 and upset that anyone reading his application might be upset over an (imperceptible) drop in grades in his senior year caused by his school blowing up, I'd say he's that kind of student. ;)

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beccastareyes September 23 2014, 03:00:39 UTC
Sadly, my time at Cornell was in the mid 00s, and I was in the graduate program in the sciences, which is often a different experience. So I can answer questions about Ithaca/the campus, but not anything time-sensitive.

Cornell usually encourages students to live on campus their first year. Also, off-campus housing is a bear in Ithaca, NY. (I had trouble finding a place two months before classes start, and prices are high if you want to live anywhere near town.)

(The major appears to be government.)

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green_grrl September 23 2014, 03:01:19 UTC
A quick search of "political science" at cornell.edu yielded the Department of Government ( ... )

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lilacsigil September 23 2014, 04:12:14 UTC
The easiest thing they can do is get married. Colleges provide married student accommodation, though for an undergraduate this is likely to be grudging and limited. According to a friend who graduated in 1996, Cornell actually doesn't have a lot of on-campus accommodation compared to other similar colleges, and after her first year it was cheaper and easier to get an apartment with friends. She was not on a scholarship (well, only a very small yearly grant for a female student in her discipline) and had help from her upper middle class parents, which may make a difference - her college housing was not subsidised as it might be for a scholarship student.

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donutgirl September 23 2014, 05:25:43 UTC
I grew up in Ithaca in the 80s, though I had moved away by 1989 (when I was 10 yrs old). Also, I attended an Ivy League school (Brown), and my sister went to Cornell, class of '85, and my dad was a prof there. I'll tell you what I can ( ... )

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orthent September 25 2014, 02:15:11 UTC
How about the gorges? I was there one summer, and people did hang out in the gorge near where we were staying--do they still?

I remember there was a nice farm stand, and a restaurant called Ruloff's, named for a murderer whose unusually large brain was in the university's collection.

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reddon666 September 25 2014, 12:31:30 UTC
It's Heathers!

Usefulness is a strange concept. For the moment, I'm less writing and more elaborately planning out Veronica and Peter's future in my head. (Technically, going by giftedness and the fact that she's mentioned as a Stanford candidate in canon, I could fudge it and have Veronica go off to Cornell too if it was the most viable option...but I don't think studying to get into an Ivy's going to be the first thing on her mind after, you know, everything that happened to her over the course of the movie.) I also love reading elaborate long explanations of things that may or may not turn out to be relevant. Basically...if it could even loosely work, I'd love to hear it.

And yeah, I know the culture of those schools is a lot more diverse than the stereotype. I'm not sure how true that was in the time period I was writing in, but going by what I can find for connected things it doesn't seem hugely different.

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