[ANON POST] Edo-period funeral sans body; back from the dead

Sep 03, 2013 08:43

I'm writing a story set in 1720s or 30s Edo, Japan. A group of commoners get very reliable news that their friend the ronin has been murdered, but there is no body. They do, however, get his swords. He has no family, so they want to memorialize him themselves. But without a body, how can they do this ( Read more... )

~law (misc), 1720-1729, 1730-1739, japan: history, ~funerals

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scribefigaro September 3 2013, 23:49:11 UTC
The class issues here would be extremely troublesome, although it's early enough that this would be less of a problem far enough from the Edo/Musashi region ( ... )

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lilacsigil September 4 2013, 04:23:18 UTC
I agree - this is all very complicated and there's not really enough information about the "death" to work around. The commoners could maybe pay a monk to pray for their friend? Not an official funeral or anything, but it would help his soul and wouldn't be such a huge overstepping of their station.

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scribefigaro September 4 2013, 06:39:53 UTC
My bad, I read 1620s. The era you set this in is way too late in the Edo era to fudge the class issues. Social structure was very well established at this point.

And, to be historically accurate, few if any samurai living had any real experience in warfare, and this was around the time the concept of "samurai" was crystallized. (Rather easy to pontificate on how the true samurai gave his life for his master without hesitation when, after nearly a century of peace, neither you nor your father nor your grandfather have ever been tested by this idea.) It was a time of some fantastic literature on the concept of being a samurai, but this same literature was an unrealistically romantic view of the life of a professional soldier that contemporary samurai knew about as well as you or I would know war if World War One was, in fact, the war that ended all wars.

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scribefigaro September 4 2013, 15:34:57 UTC
Thanks for the comment, even if it was a century earlier! There are lots of details I didn't include, because I don't want to talk (type?) your ear off, so I'm pretty sure I could fudge some details, and I'll sharply keep in mind the differences in station. Looks like I gotta nix the funeral totally as I envisioned it. It's really good to know he wouldn't have to do anything especial when he gets back (I'm assuming this part applies to the 1720s too, sounds plausible).

I'm not sure where the warfare part came from, he was "killed" travelling - but don't worry, I won't have samurai compulsively stabbing themselves when their master stubs a toe, or any other highly (melo)dramatic scenes. :-)

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