Bayerische?

Mar 25, 2014 14:39

how do you pronounce Bayerische? (AKA first word in BMW, AKA German word for Bavaria, AKA the name of this sock pattern which I just finished knitting)

My google fu is super weak -  I tried searching and found several seemingly contradictory pronunciations and none of them in IPA.

help?

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lied_ohne_worte March 25 2014, 18:54:14 UTC
Click the little arrow in front of the word here; you'd just need to attach an -e (like the English pronoun "a", approximately) for your word. The basic adjective (it's "Bavarian", rather than "Bavaria") is "bayerisch", not "bayerische", which is the feminine form. Once you put it into another language, that gender becomes a bit moot.

You might notice that the "e" in the middle is somewhat silent. Some dialects might pronounce it more, but the form in LEO is how I'd say it as a speaker of Hochdeutsch with no noticeable regional dialect. The word is sometimes even spelled "bayrisch", although "bayerisch" is the usual form.

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muckefuck March 25 2014, 23:03:15 UTC
"bayerische", which is the feminine form

Or the plural, as it is in Bayerische Motoren Werke (Werke "works" being the plural of Werk).

The word for "Bavaria" is actually Bayern. (In Bavarian, Boarn).

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flying_pig7 March 25 2014, 18:54:35 UTC
I don't know how to do IPA, but it's "buy-ahr-ish"... You can find it on this page if you click the speaker. http://www.dict.cc/?s=bavarian
They're all pretty accurate, I reckon, but I'm not a native speaker (I did learn German as a child though and am often told I speak "without an accent", whatever that means...

(It does depend a bit on where you come from in Germany though!)

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lied_ohne_worte March 25 2014, 19:00:55 UTC
Hm, those vary, I'd say, although I do like the fact that there are multiple ones available. The computer ones aren't that good. "Immanuel" suffers from over-enunciation; lots of people tend to pronounce silent letters a bit much when concentrating on their language. "Halmafelix" sounds good. "maio229" sounds (and according to the profile page is) Bavarian, although I can't pin down the specific dialect. I wouldn't advise a non-native speaker who isn't living in a specific region to try and emulate a regional dialect though.

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flying_pig7 March 25 2014, 19:22:35 UTC
I didn't realise the "e" was that silent, having listened to the link you sent above I see now what you mean! I should have guessed considering dict.cc has "boarisch" listed as the Bavarian word for "bayerisch", that's lost the "e" completely.
Good job I don't say "bayerisch" very often in conversation - people will be able to tell I'm a foreigner straight away :-P (I think my grammar generally gives me away).

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spamsink March 25 2014, 19:31:24 UTC
Pronounced by real people: http://www.forvo.com/search/bayerisch/

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biascut March 25 2014, 20:28:07 UTC
The B in BMW stands for bayerisch???!! I never knew!

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carmy_w March 27 2014, 16:48:24 UTC
Likewise! I always always thought it stood for "British!"

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