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kristinholt September 10 2009, 05:10:02 UTC
I hate it when a symptom of something else (probably a 4 month sleep regression for yours) is mistaken for problems you're causing by breastfeeding. My mother blames Jamey's occasional fussing on my Coke addiction. And that would be soda not blow.

We selectively vax'd Jamey - but for us that means skipping Rotavirus and spreading the others out a bit more and avoiding all voluntary vax. Jordan won't be receiving Gardasil, either. I don't mind if my kids get chicken pox, but I would mind if they got, say, polio.

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linden_jay September 11 2009, 03:48:20 UTC
Well, as long as it's soda and not blow...

Yeah, I do wonder if they're a bit densely packed, the vacs, but I'm getting them done. My guys were born wee, they're a bit more susceptible, I'm not screwing around here.

I'll admit, I'm surprised you're not doing Gardasil, but it's one that it's certainly your right to choose not to. I'm very grateful that it's one of the ones that being offered without being voluntary if only because that makes it so that it doesn't cost money (here at least--I'm not sure if that's how it works for you).

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kristinholt September 11 2009, 05:04:07 UTC
;) Sometimes I wish I had an outlet like that. But sadly, I'm far too cheap to ever keep a drug habit up.

I can see that. Jamey was a full-term singleton, there's a big difference. If he were in daycare, or around other kids more often, I'd probably take a different stance.

I don't think it was studied nearly enough. I think that it's being pushed through without the necessary studies. And now, it's being remarketed for boys. No thank you. It's the same here in that it's offered and covered by insurance, but I don't think I'll have to get a waiver in order for Jordan not to get it. In Texas, I can get a waiver for any vaccine that I choose not to have my kids get.

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bkm5191 September 10 2009, 10:48:38 UTC
dude I can understand wanting to skip some vaccines (hell I had the chicken pox vaccine and i still got it, plus measles for a bonus) but seriously, mot of them are for your own good.

I would totally use it as an excuse to not see them if you think the cousin is going to be a negative impact on your / their lives. You're the mom there is no selfish.

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linden_jay September 11 2009, 03:49:57 UTC
With chicken pox, I think that it's because if you get it when you're older, and not a very wee person, it can have some serious medical issues, even leading up to sterility and stuff. Note my totally non-medical terminology there--I don't have any details of it at all--but I think that's why it's become standard.

I'm going to do a bit more research, and talk to my cousin, but I want to know why she's not, and if she's ever going to do it. It's her right to do what she wants with her kid. It's my right to have the information I want/need to protect mine.

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chaosmanor September 10 2009, 12:10:05 UTC
My third son was severely immunocompromised and couldn't have any vaccinations that involved live attenuated viruses because he would become seriously ill. He was completely dependant on the rest of the community Doing the Right Thing and vaccinating. I can rant, at great length, about why healthy children should Do the Right Thing to protect kids like him who will DIE if they catch, oh, diptheria or whooping cough.

I have the same immunodeficiency, and while I now am double-vaccinated for everything, just to give my body an extra chance to make antibodies, my well-being is better protected by solid herd immunity than by dubious antibody cover.

You could always offer some of your breastmilk to your family, to see if it gives them a tummy ache.

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fiercy September 10 2009, 13:57:17 UTC
You could always offer some of your breastmilk to your family, to see if it gives them a tummy ache.


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linden_jay September 10 2009, 17:57:50 UTC
See, and this is exactly why I get so ticked off about stuff like my cousin--herd immunity exists to protect the kids like your little one who CAN'T get vaccinated. Not the people who WON'T.

If she's delaying or something like that because of the suggestion of her doctor since there was birth trauma when she had her little one? I'll shut the hell up. If this is some sort of Jenny McCarthy induced nonsense? Not so much. I need to stock up on some good, reputable articles on why we vaccinate you SILLY TWIT so I can give them to her. Assuming it will do any good.

As for your suggestion? Oh, oh, oh, I so wish my dad didn't take his coffee black. I'd do exactly that *g*.

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