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phaballa September 9 2007, 16:08:52 UTC
Wow, okay so... I think you've really hit the nail on the head as to why I dislike their music and them as people so much, even knowing so little about them. If people come out to play over here, you're going to get a lot of arguments about how authentic these guys are and how they worked their way up and they're not manufactured, etc. How appealing to the Hot Topic crowd wasn't even a thought in their heads when they started out, and so on.

Good luck arguing with that :P There's a very long thread between ethrosdemon and... some other people I don't know over on my post, in which ethros attempts to explain that the music industry is a business out to make money and the other people... do not agree, heatedly. It's an interesting thread though :P ( ... )

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lily_liedtome September 9 2007, 18:51:31 UTC


Yeah, I have a very hard time understanding the people who can't understand basic economic theory. Money is the motivating factor for most of our society - maybe it shouldn't be, but it is. And that isn't objectively a bad thing, it's just a true thing ( ... )

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phaballa September 9 2007, 19:15:04 UTC
Oh, I fucking love Chris and I would have his BABIES and I hate babies and don't ever want them but seriously, I would have Chris's. I think Chris is pretty hot in all carnations, from 90s skater hair to pineapple head to spikes to beard horns. He's wearing goggles all over Germany, for some reason i can't fathom, but I don't care because it's AWESOME and it's soooo Chris. He doesn't take good pictures, but video is awesome. If you find the one of him pretending to be Canadian and chasing down Nsync's opening act on golf cart... that and No Mercy is when I fell in love with Chris :P

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giftedstudent September 9 2007, 19:57:55 UTC
I totally see your point and for the most part I agree, but I do like these bands lol. For their music. Not because it's revolutionary or anything, but I really do like it for the most part ( ... )

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lily_liedtome September 12 2007, 23:02:38 UTC
I totally support the LGBTQ support - TOTALLY. And, actually, I think these are probably some pretty cool guys - and some complete douches, because that's just how it goes - I just have issues consuming their product? Because they are a product, and just have huge idealogical issues with both with capitalism and with people claiming to be something they're not, and they just really aren't voices of the subculture -- they are mainstream. They are pop music, and my problem is that they try to pass as something else ( ... )

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alixtii September 11 2007, 10:05:08 UTC
I'm not sure how you define what makes something art, but I suspect I wouldn't agree with it.

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lily_liedtome September 12 2007, 23:04:20 UTC
Probably not.

If you'd like to talk about it, I'll post it here (I just don't have time to do it write now, before my next class).

Would you mind my asking how you found this?

Thanks.

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lily_liedtome September 12 2007, 23:05:01 UTC
Oh, I can't spell. I meant 'right,' sorry.

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