Red

[lil_shepherd]

Saw this movie on DVD. Stunning cast, all having fun. Plot - what there is of it - makes no sense. clichés all over the place and fails the Bechdel test big time -- and also includes one woman giving another the shovel speech, which I thought was something that only happened in fan fiction. Left me without any desire to read the graphic novel

Comments

[purplecthulhu]

It does pass the Bechdel test, A insists, in at least the explanation of what wet work is.

[She made me write this]

[lil_shepherd]

Blimey! Must have missed that in all the interrogations about sexual relations!

[shiv5468]

I enjoyed it hugely. Hee

[lil_shepherd]

Our DVD (bought for a few quid) is going directly on the 'pack it off to the charity shop' pile.

[catsittingstill]

The shovel speech? One woman threatened to bury another if she hurt a third party?

[lil_shepherd]

It doesn't have to be a woman - just one person telling another "hurt my friend/relative and I'll make you pay," though you have the derivation right, I think. Though familiar with the trope, I hadn't heard the actual term myself until a few months ago. However, it's not something people do in real life - or not if they want to keep their friend/relative.

[andrewducker]

The graphic novel is almost completely different.

And is more of a novelette than a novel - in order to release it in a TPB they had to combine it with Tokyo Storm Warning (a mecha vs monsters graphic novelette that Ellis wrote around the same time).

[lil_shepherd]

You do realise that "mecha vs monster" is not something that sells to me...

[andrewducker]

I wasn't trying to sell it to you - just give you more information :->

(The original comic of Red is a rather violent piece of work, without much of a sense of humour. A couple of interesting ideas, but nothing special.)

[lil_shepherd]

In other words, very Ellis. (Though he can write humour, which he seems to save for work for hire super-hero stuff.)

[birdsedge]

I thought Red was fun and would have gone to see Red2, but our local cinema never screened it on a Wednesday afternoon, which is my cinewatching time. H can't make evening shows. Going to see The Heat tomorrow.