A Look Back: 7 years and 15

Sep 11, 2008 22:25

To me, the Jihadist War started on February 26, 1993, with the bombing of the World Trade Center. More than a thousand were injured; six died.

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mis_represented September 12 2008, 06:40:17 UTC
"Seven years ago today was the first major attack of the Jihadist War on US soil. But they have been killing Americans for years longer than that" Maybe spare a thought for those who weren't American but affected by these trageties. Is it only important when Ameircans are envovled or injuref many nations were affected by all those attack maybe spare a though for them. Also Sayyid Qutb joined an alreay present muslium brotherhood beacuse the had similar ideals to him he may have had some impacted but most of his impact was through his writtings of social justice in islam and milestones which have nothing to do with the brotherhood, his ideas to rid the world of jahiliyyah through jihad have been arounf for more the 30 years and can nto be the only cause of these atatcks they are much more complex then that

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level_head September 12 2008, 14:41:40 UTC
Maybe spare a thought for those who weren't American but affected by these trageties.Indeed -- you'll note that the "thousands of innocent victimes" were not identified as only Americans. Most of the victims of the jihadists are Muslim ( ... )

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sir_dave September 12 2008, 13:23:22 UTC
From here it appears that one of the major successes is that by taking the front to Afghanistan and Iraq, those 100,000 Muslims in this country who think it right for Al Quaeda to bomb the USA or Britain are inspired to go and 'defend' Muslims in other countries, by attacking troops who get to shoot back, instead of bombing civilians here. We are fighting the war in enemy territory; this is entirely to be welcomed.

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level_head September 12 2008, 16:04:32 UTC
We are fighting the war in enemy territory; this is entirely to be welcomed.

I agree. It is tough on the Iraqi population, who are intentionally targeted by jihadists. But it would not be improved by being a series of further jihadist attacks in London -- or New York or Los Angeles.

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What is a jihadist war? sir_dave September 12 2008, 14:15:01 UTC
From Wiki regarding white slavery:

Periodic raiding expeditions were sent from Islamic Iberia to ravage the Christian Iberian kingdoms, bringing back booty and slaves. In a raid against Lisbon in 1189 CE, for example, the Almohad caliph Yaqub al-Mansur took 3,000 female and child captives, while his governor of Córdoba, in a subsequent attack upon Silves in 1191 CE, took 3,000 Christian slaves ( ... )

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Re: What is a jihadist war? level_head September 12 2008, 15:41:41 UTC
Yes, indeed, I know (in general) about that long history. The very first war that the brand-new United States ever had to fight was against jihadists, who were taking our people for slaves and for ransom ( ... )

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Re: What is a jihadist war? roseofaurora September 12 2008, 17:30:25 UTC
Your journal is always full of materials which are constantly challenging my perspectives (They may sometimes make me uneasy, but I thank you for stimulating my gray matter in such a way ( ... )

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Re: What is a jihadist war? level_head September 12 2008, 17:53:55 UTC
First off, I actively encourage your discussion, and I've enjoyed reading your thoughts: you write and present your arguments well, and even on points where we disagree I can ask for no more than that.

But here, there is little to disagree about. I do not condemn all of Islam for the acts of jihadists -- though I would certainly like to see more outrage and less rationalizing from mainstream Islamic groups.

I have friends who were born in Iran -- and we do indeed talk politics and religion.

More in a bit.

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