Mommy, what's an internet?

Jan 10, 2009 19:55

1) I think sometimes we all forget the internet is for porn. It's a sad state of affairs. I hope one day our youth will grow up with the truth, instead of these lies about the internets being SRS BIZNESS. On that note ( Read more... )

fandom: godfather, request: fic, questions: random

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rahirah January 11 2009, 04:15:10 UTC
I just read a really nice Spike/Giles by bruttimabuoni. Spike acts like Spike, and Giles acts like Giles, and no one wears diapers! (which has frightened me away from frighteningly large numbers of S/G fics.)

http://bruttimabuoni.livejournal.com/19300.html#cutid1

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lettered January 11 2009, 04:31:59 UTC
Thanks! Will pass it along.

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a2zmom January 11 2009, 04:23:50 UTC
Re; The Godfather - this is one of those things where you are just too young. You look at the movie now, and it obviously well made, but it is also one big cliche.

You have to understand - this movie invented those cliches. The whole mafia being this incredibly loyal family where the code comes first. And if you break the code, you pay for it no matter who you are. This was all new back then, plus the absolute lushness of the story and epic downfall and corruption of Michael.

I personally liked The Conversation better, although Deniro/Brando's acting in the second Godfather movie is superb.

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lettered January 11 2009, 04:31:23 UTC
Hopefully I'm going to watch the Conversation again. I realized it was very clever, but I got bored while watching it. I think now I know what I'm getting into I'll like it better ( ... )

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stoney321 January 11 2009, 15:21:04 UTC
Also, The Godfather is the first movie to make a montage in that specific manner. When The Five Families are taken out and there's all the Catholic Church symbolism over everything? That's the first time that's ever been done and it's STILL fantastic film work.

This movie was also made in the Golden Era of film making, too, the decade of 69-79. Movies moved away from the old style of acting and filmmaking (perfectly shown in Streetcar Named Desire - watch Vivian Leigh vs. Marlon Brando: old and new, right there.) The Godfather was raw and brutal - again, that hadn't been seen before.

This was also the first time tough men were depicted as having a wide range of emotions, and not just the 40's Noirish "Yeah, see?" The acting,t he editing, the direction, the cinematography... It doesn't get much better than in this movie (unless you consider The Godfather 2, which is even better.)

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my_daroga January 12 2009, 19:11:14 UTC
The Godfather is the first movie to make a montage in that specific manner.

How do you mean this, exactly? Do you mean with the elements working against one another within the montage? I'm curious.

And I'm not arguing against what you say about the acting style being impressive and influential, but this was sort of the second generation of "Method"-inspired acting, as you point out by referencing Brando 20 years before. Maybe it all solidified then, as I believe filmmaking did in the "film school" generation of the late 60's/early 70's. It definitely was a heady time.

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clawofcat January 11 2009, 04:27:16 UTC
Have you read Safe by shapinglight? It was posted about a month ago. I'm not even a fan of Spike/Giles, but I did enjoy this particular fic. Deb has a really great way with humor, as well as the man love.

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lettered January 11 2009, 04:32:37 UTC
Thanks! Will pass it along. Have not read it . . . I'm not a fan of the pairing either, but maybe I'll give it a go.

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deathmask_revel January 11 2009, 09:38:39 UTC
This one was excellent, I thought. Thanks!

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dakinigrl January 11 2009, 05:22:24 UTC
I love the Godfather... both 1 & 2. The way Michael gets drawn into the family business after he has vowed not to... how family and blood wrap their tendrils around him without his being able to resist. How completely he gives himself over to it all. How he keeps telling himself and his wife that he will make the family business legitimate. How it all eats his soul finally. It is exquisite. A look into the human heart. Epic. Poignant. Power, corruption, violence. Some of the best film making ever. Gotta love it.

I gotta admit though, even after seeing it many many times... I could still live without the horse head.

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lettered January 11 2009, 05:54:54 UTC
That's why I love The Godfather as well. But I've been trying to find people talking about it, and when I do, it's not about the tragedy of Michael. There doesn't even seem to be much sympathy for him at all. Which, I mean, is understandable. He is evil. Ev0l! But I actually feel quite sorry for him.

But I realized the movie doesn't get inside Michael's head much. You see Michael do thing after thing and stuff keeps happening, building up, but you don't get real hints as to how he's feeling. You only get the reality of ok, he started one way, and then he gradually became . . . this other thing. You have to fill in the reasons why. And I love it because the reasons seem to me a lot deeper than greed or ambition. It seems all wrapped up in family and trust and love and the dying paradigm of another generation and another culture ( ... )

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dakinigrl January 11 2009, 06:18:59 UTC
huh... I guess I have always taken for granted that everyone sees the films as the arch of Michael's evolution, all the intricacies of his character. I mean... by the end of the third film Coppola is pretty much hitting you on the head with the moral of the story. The tragedy of it all. Michael's hopeless situation, how unable to find redemption he is. Hmph. There I go over estimating people again. ; )

HA HA HA HA. Hey... Michael/Tom could be hot. I mean, they aren't actually brothers so it's not really incest. But it's kind of like incest. Hot! hmmmm.....

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lettered January 11 2009, 06:33:08 UTC
Well...I mean, possibly the places I'm looking, people are so entrenched in the Godfather, they've taken it for granted this is the obvious meaning and aren't even talking about it any more.

I guess what surprises me is what I'm seeing people attribute to Michael's motivations. So many seem to see it as a story of someone completely corrupted by ambition and greed and his own selfishness to the point where he's destroying himself. Well, maybe. But imo that's an old story and a boring one.

What You Need: Here's Michael/Tom. It's hot. She's written two, but they're the only ones of that pairing I've found. It makes me so sad.

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lettered January 11 2009, 05:49:41 UTC
Young Pacino is HOT. I don't even know what to do, he's so hot.

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