I actually saw so much more Two Face/Batman than Joker, but that was because of Rachel. I LOVE THE TRIANGLES. But mostly only when the two men like and respect each other. Or else hated each other before there was ever a woman involved.
Don't be sorry! It is awesome and makes me feel not alone! :o)
I have two versions of Gordon. One is fine and upstanding and doesn't really understand why Batman is the way he is. That Gordon always thinks of his family first.
The other is one who's willing to put his family second in order to fight for what he sees as the Greater Good. He's willing to sacrifice even his own honor to eke out some peace in the city. He understands Batman thoroughly and only isn't the same because he knows he couldn't handle it. He loves his family but often doesn't know what to do with them; his mind is still on his cases when his wife is trying to discuss her day. He's similar to the Gordon I saw in Dark Knight.
The first Gordon has a daughter who later becomes Batgirl!
Mrs. Gordon left the second Gordon long ago.
They're both great guys but of course you know I love the second one because he is BROODY. Although I do have a special place in my heart for the first one :o) He's what I saw in the cartoon.
Dude. You would get along so amazingly well with some of my co-workers. I go to them with all my comic book questions. Do you read the comics, or are you a tv-show/movie watcher? Or both?
Gordon, as explained in your comment, is a wonderfully complex character. No, not so much complex as real. Both sides of him are good, but the second has that tinge of darkness that is necessary in his line of work. And I think it's part of the reason why Batman respects him.
Broody is good. I will forever have that image of the Captain's shadow in my head from your gothic SOM idea.
I take it you're in a Batman kind of mood ;-) I was the same way a couple of months ago when Indy 4 came out. Made me almost tempted to write an Indy/SOM cross-over. Almost.
Did you know they're working on a Justice League movie? If done right, it would be all kinds of awesome. But Christian Bale won't be playing Batman; that sucks.
is an advance over just letting it sit there and showing no sign at all that anyone finds this problematic.
Yes. As I've said, it's better than what we've been getting.
You're probably talking about superheroes as a genre, and so wouldn't say these fall into that, but personally, the main reason I love BtVS and AtS so much is I think they do address a lot of those issues. As you've said, BtVS could've done way more especially after what was revealed with Spike, but a lot of issues I have with superhero morality/ethics do get addressed.
I'm behind in my own comments so this is a comment of STEALTH! And skewed priorities. *g*
I haven't seen TDK yet, but I'm spoiled, so that's okay. Also, this means that this response is relatively useless. I haven't been reading much Nolan!verse fic lately (because I'm one of those crazy Bruce/Clark people, and in Nolan!verse there ain't no such animal) so I can't rec any. As far as the comms, I see that you're already watching gotham_times, which is probably your best bet in terms of newsletters. comicstore_news also lists Nolan!verse fic but I'm sure that it pretty much overlaps with what you'll find in GT. You probably also have checked out batfic, batman_slash, and darkknightfic. I have nothing new for you! *sadness*
I'm excited that you're excited though. I hope you find something that gives you that AHA, YES!
HEE. Hi! How are you! I immediately thought of you when I did this post. I think that if I step into Batman fandom through Nolanverse I'll probably enjoy myself more. I've always LOVED Batman but I never really was interested in fic about it, even though I knew it was out there. It wasn't until now, really. But I've always wanted to give your comic fic a try. I'm...not a Clark or Superman fan and never have been, but it's you so it's probably awesome.
I found something!romanygAugust 2 2008, 07:27:25 UTC
Clarity by rubynye. It's short, for the porn battle (I guess there's *two* this time around?), Rachel/Harvey/Bruce.
And you thought of me? Whee! I'm thoughtable! I love Batman too. Just, yeah, different pairing, different verse. And after a quick run through the comms, man, there's *tons* of Nolanverse out there.
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Sorry about that. xD
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Don't be sorry! It is awesome and makes me feel not alone! :o)
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When you think about that pairing, Gordon isn't really cheating on his wife, is he?
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The other is one who's willing to put his family second in order to fight for what he sees as the Greater Good. He's willing to sacrifice even his own honor to eke out some peace in the city. He understands Batman thoroughly and only isn't the same because he knows he couldn't handle it. He loves his family but often doesn't know what to do with them; his mind is still on his cases when his wife is trying to discuss her day. He's similar to the Gordon I saw in Dark Knight.
The first Gordon has a daughter who later becomes Batgirl!
Mrs. Gordon left the second Gordon long ago.
They're both great guys but of course you know I love the second one because he is BROODY. Although I do have a special place in my heart for the first one :o) He's what I saw in the cartoon.
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Gordon, as explained in your comment, is a wonderfully complex character. No, not so much complex as real. Both sides of him are good, but the second has that tinge of darkness that is necessary in his line of work. And I think it's part of the reason why Batman respects him.
Broody is good. I will forever have that image of the Captain's shadow in my head from your gothic SOM idea.
I take it you're in a Batman kind of mood ;-) I was the same way a couple of months ago when Indy 4 came out. Made me almost tempted to write an Indy/SOM cross-over. Almost.
Did you know they're working on a Justice League movie? If done right, it would be all kinds of awesome. But Christian Bale won't be playing Batman; that sucks.
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is an advance over just letting it sit there and showing no sign at all that anyone finds this problematic.
Yes. As I've said, it's better than what we've been getting.
You're probably talking about superheroes as a genre, and so wouldn't say these fall into that, but personally, the main reason I love BtVS and AtS so much is I think they do address a lot of those issues. As you've said, BtVS could've done way more especially after what was revealed with Spike, but a lot of issues I have with superhero morality/ethics do get addressed.
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I'm behind in my own comments so this is a comment of STEALTH! And skewed priorities. *g*
I haven't seen TDK yet, but I'm spoiled, so that's okay. Also, this means that this response is relatively useless. I haven't been reading much Nolan!verse fic lately (because I'm one of those crazy Bruce/Clark people, and in Nolan!verse there ain't no such animal) so I can't rec any. As far as the comms, I see that you're already watching gotham_times, which is probably your best bet in terms of newsletters. comicstore_news also lists Nolan!verse fic but I'm sure that it pretty much overlaps with what you'll find in GT. You probably also have checked out batfic, batman_slash, and darkknightfic. I have nothing new for you! *sadness*
I'm excited that you're excited though. I hope you find something that gives you that AHA, YES!
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Thanks for the comms!
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And you thought of me? Whee! I'm thoughtable! I love Batman too. Just, yeah, different pairing, different verse. And after a quick run through the comms, man, there's *tons* of Nolanverse out there.
ETA: I found something else. It's not at any of the comms so it might not make GT. Now the Old King Is Dead, Long Live the King by hackthis (Bruce/Harvey).
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Because what if it inspires you and then you write movieverse fic?
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