WARHAMMER: Initial Impressions from a WoW Addict

[leliel]

I'm kinda behind I realize, the people who are really interested in WAR have been playing for a while now. But I just started toying with it, so... nyah. :P I'm writing this anyway

Comments

[martinhesselius]

I'd heard movement was all WASD based?

[cifarelli]

Hmm, do you click to move in WoW?

In WoW I use wasd to move and mouse to just turn/look mostly like I was playing an FPS.

[martinhesselius]

*nod*
I normally use the arrow keys, don't usually strafe (would re-map if essential).

[leliel]

Honestly, I'd recommend swapping to WASD and learning to strafe, it's a life-saver at times. Especailly for your feral and rogue.

[cifarelli]

Sounds like the warhammer PvP is more of a battleground than world PvP of randomly bumping into the enemy?

The Dark elfs of Warhammer lore of only Dark in their magic and morals. Their leader felt he should have become the next high phoneix king of the Elves, and when it passed to someone else he stomped off to found his own kingdom and wage war on the elven homeland to take back 'his' throne. (I have the dark elf army book and a starter tabletop army that I never got around to painting beyond priming a big block of infantry.)

Any idea of how fun the magic system is?

[cyberduck]

WAR uses multiple types of PvP. The "Scenario" games are what she's describing above. There's still "open" PvP. If you played DAOC, than you'll be familiar with the open style.

[cifarelli]

Nope, didn't play DAoC, hence the questions. Mostly wondering how much world PvP is a factor when your wandering around trying to do your own thing with PvE questing.

[cyberduck]

Unless you're on one of the scary, open-PvP servers, the PvE areas are secured from roaming PvP hostiles.

So, yeah, you could just play the PvE game and never PvP even once and probably never notice. Though you would be kinda' missing out on a healthy chunk of the game, ya' know?

[soultron]

Sounds like alot of people are making the switch to WAR. I think I'm going to play in the Wrath expansion for a while, then bounce to either WAR or EVE.

I'm hesitant to leave WoW at this point, because I finally found a raiding guild I like to play with.

What's the subscription fee for WAR?

[leliel]

<3 my raid guild. But then a number of them are moving together to an Order guild on WAR anyway. (Yes, my Horde guild is going Order.)

I'm thinking Ill level in Wotlk for certain, level my druid in feral and tame a core hound for grins on my hunter. But I'm thinking I may not raid after wotlk comes out. It's such a huge timesink...

[cifarelli]

I used to love my raid guild... but over the past 6 months *a lot* of the veterans I loved to raid with have drifted out and been replaced with recruits how have slowly but surely undermined the average maturity level of raids. I wandered away to see if I missed it just as we were starting to learn Illidan. I've stabbed him, but haven't seen past phase 2. The guild finally got their first kill like a month and a half later. I found didn't really miss it as wow it was a huge timesink and I now had all this time...

which I promptly sunk a lot of into learning Eve. Go figure.

I have a have a wrath beta key but haven't done much with it other than complete the arc for the death knight starting area. I've tried taking my rogue to northrend but eventually got fed up with buggy questing and the northrend server going down every 5 to 15 minutes.

[willofgod]

Oh, oh, Gaming filter, me, me

[leliel]

Done! of course I havent *posted* to it yet so it may look suspiciously empty atm... ;P

[cyberduck]

My only comments are regarding "mandatory" PvP and "screwed healers".

The upgrades you refer to are only one potential source of better gear. A lot of quest-gear is far better than those realm-rank-based upgrades. That system was included so that if you wanted to level *only* via RvR (no questing, pve, etc), you still had a route to get equipment upgrades.
Also, you should occasionally get a bump in realm rank just for standing around. I don't fully grok the system myself, but routinely, "something" will happen in the realm war, and everyone in the area (PvP *and* PvE areas) get a bump up in realm rank.

As for Healers getting screwed...eh...yeah, the PQ's do seem to be based on damage output, but the DoK's can dish out some heavy hitting when they put their mind to it, and without sacrificing on the healing. It *is* however, a very different kind of combat mentality than other games seem to foster.

/plays a DoK

[leliel]

Where does that leave the rune priests? Do they deal enough damage while healing to get a fair shake at the contribution points?

I hadn't seen any quest gear comparable to the renown rewards yet except for the Public Quests. So unless there are enough people around to work on the pq, your options are solo quests w/ minimal rewards and RVR renown rewards. Admittedly, I'm still quite low level.

How are you liking the DoK overall? I'm thinking about seriously just avoiding the healers for a while, playing DPS and maybe a tank. (rawr!) But that's at least partially WoW-healing burnout on my part.

And thanks for all your comments! ^_^

[cyberduck]

I haven't played an RP very much, I'm mostly a Destruction guy right now (and not a big Dwarf fan in general). Most of the healer-types are, as you'd noted, hybrids. Some are Healer-melee DPS (DoKs and War' Priests for example), others are more healer-nuker (Archmage comes to mind), and so forth. So the Rune Priests probably do okay, though I can't speak from direct experience