Comments | kyou_kara_maou: an appeal from a writer to her readers

manaika in kyou_kara_maou

an appeal from a writer to her readers

Jun 09, 2012 22:28

Hi!

I'm sure some of you have already heard about this, but just for recapitulation:
The popular site fanfiction.net, has decided to take a charge against the M rated fanfic, that include MA content (over 18) and delete all of the fanfics containing such. Many of the fanfics that contain such scenes (sexual scenes, or any other scenes of the adult ( Read more... )

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fencer_x June 10 2012, 02:10:54 UTC

Just saying, the rules have been pretty clear for a while. You should probably count yourselves lucky you've flown under the radar this long :/ You don't really have much of a point to appeal on (that's the correct spelling btw) when you were violating the clearly mentioned rules :/

Regardless of the focus or reasoning for including the scenes--you broke the rules. If you want your work hosted someplace public, use your LJ, or an open archive like AO3 or adultfanfiction.net that allows adult material. It's unfortunate you weren't given some warning or something to allow you to cut out the offending material, but I'm struggling to have much more sympathy than that for people who've violated the rules that have been around as long as I've been in fandom :/

iczer6 June 10 2012, 06:49:52 UTC

I have to agree with the others. FF.net's band on adult fic has been there for years. I don't think it's ever really been enforced, but it's not something new. If you want to post adult fic without worrying there are other options.

subarukun June 10 2012, 11:31:05 UTC

Well, I am old enough to remember when they first banned the adult stuff and I' a bit surprised so many people where either unaware of their TOS or simply chose to ignore it this long.

There are places where you can put up higher rated stories without a problem.

Don't get me wrong. I don't think ff.net has done a very good job of handling this. And I never liked their reasons for banning adult sruff in the first place and some other part of their TOS rubbed me the wrong way, too. But that is why I use other places that have Terms of Service I can agree with and that allows my fanfic.

Why not use your journal to archive your fic? Others have already pointed you to different places that would work.

kudouusagi June 10 2012, 13:41:51 UTC

Yeah I am old enough to remember when this happened the first time too. I was actually surprised it went on so long unregulated. The mass deletion of adult rated fanfics is the whole reason that AdultFanFiction.net exists today.

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kudouusagi June 10 2012, 15:00:25 UTC

Well they haven't removed anything yet but they are reminding people about the rules and letting people move stories that break those rules and then I think they are going to start deleting them in a few days.

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crystalwren_fic June 10 2012, 15:00:20 UTC

I ended up shifting to Archive of Our Own some time ago. Trying to rate my stuff was giving me a headache. I left my fics that I'd already written there but everything new is on AO3. FF.net has been very clear on their rules though, and they have been in place for quite some time, even though I don't particularly like them...

manaika June 10 2012, 21:38:35 UTC

I might end up doing the same thing.
Thank you for the response! ^^

kudouusagi June 10 2012, 18:33:33 UTC

In reply to your edit:
You know why the came up with this policy 10 years ago? because they didn't want to pay for age verification software to block underage people from seeing adult content so they just banned all adult content from the site. Those age verification softwares cost a lot of money... but then again fanfiction.net is one of the biggest fanfiction websites on the internet so if they really wanted to I'm sure they could figure it out a way to make it work. they decided not to. It's their website they can do what they want with it.

The rule wasn't completely ignored since it was put in but it was slowly less and less enforced as time went on. I remember people bitching and complaining and fighting it the first time and the site owners ignored them. People made their own fanfiction websites and moved on. They lost tons of people then and I doubt they care if they lose tons of people again.

manaika June 10 2012, 21:42:42 UTC

Oh please.
Like it could be any more complicated than that new (and utterly useless) feature of Image manager. Archive (which is a smaller site than ff.net) uses age verification.
It's easier and costs less energy than removing thousands of fanfictions - the greater part of the archive, probably.
Well, yeah, that's true. Their site, their loss.

Probably not, but then at least, we didn't go without a fight.