The morning after...

Nov 05, 2008 10:54

The intensity of my dislike for 50% of the American people has lessened a bit this morning. I think it's more denial kicking in ( Read more... )

2008 election, politics

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katharhino November 5 2008, 18:31:07 UTC
Cyclical -- that's how I see it too. The economy is for sure, and I believe so are elections. Things might get worse before they get better (I'm not being blindly optimistic by any means) but someday, they'll get better.

Someone else on my f-list brought up the point that it might do the GOP some good to think about why they lost this election. Which is not to say anything against McCain. But I do think both major parties get way too complacent.

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kimana83 November 5 2008, 18:45:46 UTC
You are the first brave one to speak to me on LJ after my post last night. Kudos to you. =o)

Things might get worse before they get better (I'm not being blindly optimistic by any means) but someday, they'll get better.
Yep. I mean, there are certainly things that could've been done to prevent the current downturn (all things McCain pushed for, I might add), but what goes down must go up eventually. Americans are resilient (though the current generation far less than the ones before, IMO), and we will be fine.

Oh, absolutely. I was never a huge McCain fan. I only became die-hard for him as I learned more about Obama. Isaac wrote something a year ago about taking back our party, and never has it been more clear that we need to. =o/

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katharhino November 5 2008, 19:13:13 UTC
*snert*

Well, you are scary indeed, but I am brave. :-)

I wish I could be World Dictator for just one teensy little day, so I could reform the campaign system and make it possible for some of the other parties to have some power. I think there's not enough competition. (So capitalist of me.)

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kimana83 November 6 2008, 04:20:12 UTC
Oh yes, I am the scariest of all scary people in the scary world. Except for Obama and his friends. Hehehe.

Me too. Which is funny given that dictatorships suck so much. Hehe. It really does stink that the media makes it out to be a two-party race... and because of them, it really IS a two-party race. Self-fulfilling prophecy and all that.

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kimana83 November 5 2008, 19:01:12 UTC
I just needed time. I always just need time. I'm one of those people who can internalize things and then just get over it without any later explosions. (Although of course this time I did vent, but it was unnecessary. It was, however, quite enjoyable. ;o) ) So since you are back to optimism, does that mean your LJ's temporary hiatus will go far, far away? *crosses fingers*

Nice! Jacksonville was really close, but McCain won it in the end. All the surrounding counties (and states) went for McCain too. I do love living in a redneck city when it comes to elections.

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kimana83 November 6 2008, 04:21:21 UTC
You're right. I am so glad you decided not to hide (even though I didn't ever take it as hiding). I'd miss you too much!

Definitely! Jacksonvillains happily cling to guns and religion; that's why I love them so much. =o)

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modernelegance November 5 2008, 19:28:43 UTC
Thankfully no matter how big Obama's messiah complex gets, the real messiah is still on the throne and He cares for us. Thankfully even He showed righteous anger towards the religious leaders and corrupt persons in the temple so we can get angry as well. ;)

At least if all else fails, you and Isaac can move to Tennessee since we're all nice and red... :P

Like I saw on a T-Shirt, Pray for Obama (Psalm 109:8)

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chestnutcurls November 5 2008, 22:16:23 UTC
Yes, yay for red Tennessee! :)

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kimana83 November 6 2008, 04:27:30 UTC
Definite yay!

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kimana83 November 6 2008, 04:24:39 UTC
Agreed. I think I'm over the anger, but the disbelief is still strong. It really is unbelievable.

If you were on the coast, I'd be cool with that. Well, maybe. It does get pretty cold there... ;o)

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svobodster November 5 2008, 20:55:59 UTC
Hi! I'm one of those vile Obama supporters you were talking about :), but I also have a genuine desire to understand why conservatives are so crushed at his election. You said the biggest things you were concerned about were health care, being attacked by one of the terrorist groups who were praying for Obama's election, and that Obama might pack the court with liberal justices ( ... )

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moosicalmath November 5 2008, 23:48:41 UTC
Heya--I'm also one of those Obama supporters. I'm not going to defend him, but leave you a word of encouragement, which I know you know: GOD is in control. There is nothing in this election that He did not plan or foresee. His desire is not for us to build Heaven on earth, but to rescue people out of what He promises will become an increasingly corrupt and vile place to live. Jesus, yes, Jesus has the only true message of hope, He will return, and even so Lord Jesus, come quickly!

This video by John Piper is terrific: http://www.desiringgod.org/Blog/1473_Thoughts_on_Voting_and_Politics/

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kimana83 November 6 2008, 04:48:25 UTC
Ah, but you have never been vile, IMO. =o) Like I said to the person above, I have never said Obama supporters were vile.

I'm not a Calvinist, so I don't necessarily believe that God planned this. He certainly knew it would happen and absolutely could have prevented it (and very well could have done it, though unlikely), but I don't think He often directly intervenes in our world today. IMO it's like when a hurricane comes. People will say, "God is in control," but that doesn't mean God caused it. Rather, hurricanes IMO are a result of the fall of man. Likewise, so is the majority of citizens of a country electing a man who so clearly does not follow God's Word. No one can tell me that God wanted a man with such a dismal record on the sanctity of human life in power, unless He put Obama in power to teach us a lesson, as He did with Saul and the Israelites. But that doesn't mean it's the end of the world or that our country will end up like Sodom & Gomorrah ( ... )

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kimana83 November 6 2008, 04:15:00 UTC
I have never said Obama supporters were vile. I have said that most are deceived and many of them (anyone who voted for him because of his ethnicity or because it's cool or because they think he'll fix all their problems) are stupid, but I only know one Obama fan that I would call vile. He's a jerk anyway; he's just been made a bigger one by supporting Obama ( ... )

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bluiidmommy November 5 2008, 23:30:58 UTC
I think what infuriates me the most is when people pull the "you're just mad because he's black" card. No, that's not it at all. I agree with him on nothing, that's why I voted against him.

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kimana83 November 6 2008, 04:51:15 UTC
Thankfully I haven't gotten that post-election, but I did get it a few times pre-election. Obama used the race card himself, so of course his supporters have. I know there are some people who didn't vote for him because he is part black, but there were far more who voted for him because he is part black - which is still racism! Gah!

I'm glad that history was made, but I hate that it was made solely for the purpose of doing so. History should be made by the best candidate, not by the one who will make history. GRR.

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bluiidmommy November 6 2008, 13:05:41 UTC
YES. And it was made in two ways really; not only will he be the first black president, he'll also be the first socialist one.

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