I clearly have enough thoughts and feels about Arrow that they're spilling out all over. So I'm going to move some specific thoughts over here
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I would like just to get to know Felicity. I'd like to hear more about her loneliness, her isolation possibly, her unattractiveness to boys (reflected in her comments about a boy liking her), and her family life. I need really just to know that she has struggled and can identify with the pain that Oliver and Diggle have experienced. We know her father has left her and that her relationship with her mother is tense, but that's it. I want to hear about why in the world she would ever hook up with Oliver and Diggle and the CRAY stuff they get themselves into. Why risk life and limb? So, the details of her backstory matter less to me than the shape of it being akin to angst and loss and pain. But not too much
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One of the very strong feelings I get about Felicity, recently, regardless of the details of her backstory is that of reinvention. That she had a life, a father who left her, a difficult relationship with her mother and Felicity decided she needed to make her life her own. Makes me wonder if she didn't originally choose anonymity, only to find herself in a space of being exceptional again. Something to think about because it does raise her level of interest without just adding angst and pain
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I think the difference too between Molly/Sherlock and Olicity is that Molly doesn't have a lot of delusions about Sherlock. He's much more in your face with his unsocial behavior.
This is exactly where Felicity needs to be to make me see that it could work. Felicity, in reality, probably needs for Oliver to hurt her and then for her to find her own strength to need him, want him, yet realize that he might not be the best thing for her. She, like the other women in the show, needs to have her own storyline. Yes, she can love Oliver, but the hero worship and infatuation need to stop. I dislike that aspect. She needs to see him for the jerk that he is towards women he claims to love and still love him and care about him. I am not sure that has happened yet. (And Oliver needs to see her as a woman, not just a tech chick that he thinks is sweet.)
I think I just said all of that to Tara in your journal. hee.
But yes, Oliver needs to hurt Felicity. Being a superhero needs to hurt Felicity. Then she needs to remake, rebuild (again likely). And quite frankly, I'd like to watch that show. :)
[and I need a straight up Oliver icon. and to beign writing. ;)]
I love Felicity- she has no qualms about who she is- a Jewish IT girl who sees though BS with ease, puts her foot in her mouth over and over, is willing to put herself in danger but hates it when people do the same to protect her. I love that she calls Oliver, her and Diggle "Team Arrow" and that she looks at Oliver and sees that he is damaged but trying to be good.
I think the lack of fullness in her character is due to the fact she was supposed to be a once off- show up briefly and then be gone. Originally she was supposed to be in one episode, then three and then she was added as recurring then as starring for S2.
I don't really know much about what I'd like her backstory to be though. I think she'd definitely done a lot of hacking for one reason or another. She's moral though, there'd have to be a reason for the hacking for her to justify it in her own head.
I think the lack of fullness in her character is due to the fact she was supposed to be a once off- show up briefly and then be gone. Originally she was supposed to be in one episode, then three and then she was added as recurring then as starring for S2.
I'm certain this is the reason. She was a character before anyone really thought about who she was or what she meant. I like all of those things about Felicity, but she lacks a depth of character development for me. Even Sara who has been in far fewer episode feels like more than a list of traits to me.
The hacking angle is interesting. Not terribly compelling to watch on TV but something that could give her a past.
I don't really have a lot of deep thoughts about Felicity's backstory. I can go with whatever they come up with.
But I kind of really like the idea of her NOT being terribly damaged, just because it makes her somewhat unique in this world. I don't think she has to have lived Oliver's experiences to relate or empathize or understand. And I think she's already self-aware enough to know her crush on him is a bad idea. I don't see her actively wanting a relationshp with him right now.
While I don't care much about her backstory, I WOULD like to know more about her life at the moment. I think it would be really fun to get an episode of Arrow told only from Felicity's POV--sort of like Buffy's The Zeppo did with Xander.
I don't necessarily think that Felicity has to terribly damaged. Even understand the appeal of her being different in that regard, but I would like her to be interesting. In fact, I think giving her any sort of backstory that comes into major play in the series, be it good (like I suggest here) or bad (like her father might be a future bigbad) is better if she's not damaged by it so much as it caused her separation. Like it was damaging to her mother when he father left which caused the strain between Felicity and her mother.
But, even more so I would LOVE to know more about Felicity now. Almost more than I really about her backstory, in fact. This is one of the places where her development as an existing character comes into play for me as lacking. I feel like the writers don't even know where she lives. Like if I asked, they'd shrug like she lives under her desk or something.
I have grown to like the flashbacks, but I would love some of Felicity. And given that the last episode had flashbacks off the Island, that could happen.
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This is exactly where Felicity needs to be to make me see that it could work. Felicity, in reality, probably needs for Oliver to hurt her and then for her to find her own strength to need him, want him, yet realize that he might not be the best thing for her. She, like the other women in the show, needs to have her own storyline. Yes, she can love Oliver, but the hero worship and infatuation need to stop. I dislike that aspect. She needs to see him for the jerk that he is towards women he claims to love and still love him and care about him. I am not sure that has happened yet. (And Oliver needs to see her as a woman, not just a tech chick that he thinks is sweet.)
[I need a Felicity icon!]
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But yes, Oliver needs to hurt Felicity. Being a superhero needs to hurt Felicity. Then she needs to remake, rebuild (again likely). And quite frankly, I'd like to watch that show. :)
[and I need a straight up Oliver icon. and to beign writing. ;)]
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I think the lack of fullness in her character is due to the fact she was supposed to be a once off- show up briefly and then be gone. Originally she was supposed to be in one episode, then three and then she was added as recurring then as starring for S2.
I don't really know much about what I'd like her backstory to be though. I think she'd definitely done a lot of hacking for one reason or another. She's moral though, there'd have to be a reason for the hacking for her to justify it in her own head.
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I'm certain this is the reason. She was a character before anyone really thought about who she was or what she meant. I like all of those things about Felicity, but she lacks a depth of character development for me. Even Sara who has been in far fewer episode feels like more than a list of traits to me.
The hacking angle is interesting. Not terribly compelling to watch on TV but something that could give her a past.
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But I kind of really like the idea of her NOT being terribly damaged, just because it makes her somewhat unique in this world. I don't think she has to have lived Oliver's experiences to relate or empathize or understand. And I think she's already self-aware enough to know her crush on him is a bad idea. I don't see her actively wanting a relationshp with him right now.
While I don't care much about her backstory, I WOULD like to know more about her life at the moment. I think it would be really fun to get an episode of Arrow told only from Felicity's POV--sort of like Buffy's The Zeppo did with Xander.
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But, even more so I would LOVE to know more about Felicity now. Almost more than I really about her backstory, in fact. This is one of the places where her development as an existing character comes into play for me as lacking. I feel like the writers don't even know where she lives. Like if I asked, they'd shrug like she lives under her desk or something.
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