gimme some backstory

Feb 17, 2014 11:19

I clearly have enough thoughts and feels about Arrow that they're spilling out all over. So I'm going to move some specific thoughts over here ( Read more... )

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scifishipper February 17 2014, 19:53:43 UTC
I would like just to get to know Felicity. I'd like to hear more about her loneliness, her isolation possibly, her unattractiveness to boys (reflected in her comments about a boy liking her), and her family life. I need really just to know that she has struggled and can identify with the pain that Oliver and Diggle have experienced. We know her father has left her and that her relationship with her mother is tense, but that's it. I want to hear about why in the world she would ever hook up with Oliver and Diggle and the CRAY stuff they get themselves into. Why risk life and limb? So, the details of her backstory matter less to me than the shape of it being akin to angst and loss and pain. But not too much!

And on a side note, Felicity reminds me a lot of Molly on Sherlock. And how I totally ship them and not Olicity is beyond me. Although, if I remember clearly, I did not totally ship Molly/Sherlock until HE NEEDED HER in Reichenbach. I guess I can wait for the Olicity feels when we actually see that Oliver needs Felicity -- not because he "says it" (blegh), I need to see it and feel it. His words are not always to be trusted.

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kdbleu February 17 2014, 20:16:27 UTC
One of the very strong feelings I get about Felicity, recently, regardless of the details of her backstory is that of reinvention. That she had a life, a father who left her, a difficult relationship with her mother and Felicity decided she needed to make her life her own. Makes me wonder if she didn't originally choose anonymity, only to find herself in a space of being exceptional again. Something to think about because it does raise her level of interest without just adding angst and pain.

Interesting that you mention Molly. I like the parallel between Molly/Sherlock better than Lee/Dee. I think the difference too between Molly/Sherlock and Olicity is that Molly doesn't have a lot of delusions about Sherlock. He's much more in your face with his unsocial behavior. I adore the moment in Reichenbach at the Christmas party between them because he is so overt is ripping her apart and then so genuinely "oh shit" and apologizes but without guilt. I don't feel like Oliver and Felicity are there yet. She still is half in the dark about his reality.

I did not totally ship Molly/Sherlock until HE NEEDED HER in Reichenbach. I guess I can wait for the Olicity feels when we actually see that Oliver needs Felicity -- not because he "says it" (blegh), I need to see it and feel it.

And this too. Oliver needs to need Felicity, not the tech desk. ;) And to be honest, I think they could pull that off. And I think I could ship that if they can.

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scifishipper February 17 2014, 20:24:34 UTC
I think the difference too between Molly/Sherlock and Olicity is that Molly doesn't have a lot of delusions about Sherlock. He's much more in your face with his unsocial behavior.

This is exactly where Felicity needs to be to make me see that it could work. Felicity, in reality, probably needs for Oliver to hurt her and then for her to find her own strength to need him, want him, yet realize that he might not be the best thing for her. She, like the other women in the show, needs to have her own storyline. Yes, she can love Oliver, but the hero worship and infatuation need to stop. I dislike that aspect. She needs to see him for the jerk that he is towards women he claims to love and still love him and care about him. I am not sure that has happened yet. (And Oliver needs to see her as a woman, not just a tech chick that he thinks is sweet.)

[I need a Felicity icon!]

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kdbleu February 17 2014, 20:28:18 UTC
I think I just said all of that to Tara in your journal. hee.

But yes, Oliver needs to hurt Felicity. Being a superhero needs to hurt Felicity. Then she needs to remake, rebuild (again likely). And quite frankly, I'd like to watch that show. :)

[and I need a straight up Oliver icon. and to beign writing. ;)]

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scifishipper February 17 2014, 20:52:35 UTC
I would like to see Felicity broken down a bit, just to see her strengths. I do like her quirkiness and her forthright way of speaking. And I really don't want to see her hurting too much. Just enough to see Oliver for who he is so she can make a judgment about his worthiness as a recipient of her love.

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kdbleu February 17 2014, 21:04:41 UTC
exactly! I want strength and resilience. I want development to go long with her quirkiness and boldness. :)

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scifishipper February 17 2014, 21:16:07 UTC
On this comment is a random Oliver icon in blue. Looking to find a good cap to make another one. So many weird lights in their space under the club (where is usually half-dressed)!

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kdbleu February 17 2014, 21:23:34 UTC
I like that one. I think one of the things I like about Arrow is the lighting/darkness. REminds me of BSG.

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