Civil War

May 14, 2016 23:19

I have now seen it twice and feel confident having an opinion!

Which is mixed. )

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destina May 15 2016, 16:29:14 UTC
So I'm kind of sad that the last Steve movie I expect us to get was a movie that I experienced as something between Avengers III and Iron Man IV. I wanted more Steve than I got.

Me, too. I love me some RDJ, and I loved him in this movie, but I wanted my Captain America movie and I feel a little cheated, since this is the last one. (Apparently that is an unpopular opinion.)

By chance have you seen the Chelsea Handler dinner party with Captain America thing that's on Netflix? I was amused at how protective and defensive Frank Grillo was of Chris Evans, pointing out that this was HIS MOVIE and his time to shine. Because I do think this isn't a Steve movie, and I think the cast has been tiptoeing around that a lot on the press tour because no one wants to piss off RDJ, but not Grillo. *g*

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eregyrn May 16 2016, 21:09:46 UTC
(I am right there with the two of you on that unpopular opinion.)

I'd been dreading this movie since they announced it was going to be Civil War; that said, it turned out much better than I'd feared it would. Still. I didn't want this to *be* Civil War, also because I knew it would never be allowed to be a Captain America movie, it would have to be more, and shove him into just one of the corners. Oh well.

The other possibly-to-become unpopular opinion I have right now is: god help me, I do not want Bucky (and Steve and whoever else) taking over Black Panther's intro movie. I want T'challa to have HIS movie, his DEBUT MOVIE. I don't want it to become "T'challa is caught in the middle of people trying to come get Bucky".

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katie_m June 26 2016, 14:47:30 UTC
I'm not sure if it's weird to reply to this a month and a half later but WHATEVER, my project for this weekend was to finally completely catch up on my email and so here we are.

(Apparently that is an unpopular opinion.)

Depends on the circles you run in, I suspect. Which was why I wanted to see the movie again before having an opinion on it - I wanted to separate out my actual reactions from groupthink, you know?

By chance have you seen the Chelsea Handler dinner party with Captain America thing that's on Netflix? I was amused at how protective and defensive Frank Grillo was of Chris Evans, pointing out that this was HIS MOVIE and his time to shine. Because I do think this isn't a Steve movie, and I think the cast has been tiptoeing around that a lot on the press tour because no one wants to piss off RDJ, but not Grillo. *g*Ha! No, I didn't see that. Well, Rumlow's dead, what does Grillo care, right ( ... )

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eregyrn May 16 2016, 21:22:15 UTC
I do wonder if the reason people keep laying the Chitauri at the Avengers' doorstep is that they regard that whole alien invasion as being like Ultron? Is it widely known that the head of the alien army was the brother of one of the Avengers? It would be easy (though unfair!) for people to regard that entire fiasco as something the Avengers brought down on the world by existing, just as with Ultron ( ... )

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troyswann May 18 2016, 23:15:06 UTC
I am nodding my head along with your post. From now on, I'm just going to say: "What Katie said."

Clint's "I knew I should've stretched," is possibly my favourite line in the movie because there is so much major body-bashing going on in this thing that it was nice to hear someone being slightly more realistic about the "If you get killed, walk it off" ethos of hero-wars. Only Steve and Tony get any blood or bruises, so their conflict seems more powerful. Even Rhodey is broken in his tin can and then we see him after in his new exoskeleton. So, there's something there about the way the movie uses physical brokenness as a sort of emotional/moral shorthand that I've not quite worked out yet.

But, that's all I would add to what you said.

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katie_m June 30 2016, 01:51:12 UTC
I didn't answer this because I am Not Dealing, except now I am Dealing, so: That's interesting, that only Steve and Tony (well, and Bucky, but he's central to their conflict) take any real visible damage. We might see some bruising in the scene in the Raft when Tony comes and talks to Sam? But you're right, mostly it's concentrated on the main actors.

Anyway it's always nice to hear from you so I didn't want you to think I was ignoring you in particular, I've been generally ignorant recently.

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