In our universe, one that doesn't have thunder gods, and where helicarriers and metal suits have to obey the laws of physics. Maybe the wall fell later in their universe. Comics can get away with anything just by putting a different number after "Earth."
Also don't mention the Yankees, he has issues.
Heh. Well, nobody from Brooklyn in that era would ever root for the Yanks, and we know from the first movie that Steve was a Dodger fan, as was proper.
They just kept trying and Bucky was the only one who ever survived, maybe?
It's like the mirakuru in Arrow. Roy gets superpowers, everyone else bleeds to death through their eyes.
In our universe, one that doesn't have thunder gods, and where helicarriers and metal suits have to obey the laws of physics. Maybe the wall fell later in their universe. Comics can get away with anything just by putting a different number after "Earth."
Well, sure, but it seems kind of unfair to bring up a real-world thing and then be all "but actually the history is completely different!"
Speaking of underreactions -- not just law enforcement. THE ARMED FORCES. Tell me the National Guard wouldn't have been scrambled for that causeway incident. Where were the jillions of helicopters that should have converged? etc
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I'm vaguely of the conviction that the Pentagon doesn't exist in-universe, simply because they would never allow a building that tall in their own back yard. Or else that the majority of the action was occurring in, like, Fredericksburg, so far up-river that you could drop three football-fields worth of airship into the drink without drowning the richest neighborhood in the nation's capital. How you get through WWII without the Pentagon I don't know, unless the Triskelion is built ON TOP OF the Pentagon and has absorbed it as an organization.
But yes. The Fury sequence started out well -- they arrive in cop cars; heck they may be cops; the streets are deserted as if it were early morning -- but when you have cars explode in downtown Washington, and people don't flip their lids for weeks thereafter, my sense of reality begins to decline.
Just checked -- the Triskelion does seem to be sitting right where the Pentagon ought to be. So that's interesting. Unfortunately, it's pretty clear that's where it is, because of the establishing shot views of the Jefferson Memorial and so on.
I'm a little weirded out that in the comics, the Triskelion is actually a flying base, much like the helicarriers only bigger. So they can move it around and most often they plunk it in a body of water, like New York harbor. But I guess in the MCU continuity they've only had the repulsor technology to make the helicarriers fly for a short time, not long enough to have gotten their base in the air. And now, of course…
But there's certainly a large military that does its own operations. For one thing: Rhodey. For another, it's always the Army that's going after the Hulk. So they've got to be around.
It's definitely telling that we can handwave wacked-out geography and crap better than we can in-universe reactions that don't feel emotionally resonant in the right way.
No. The Triskalion is on top of Teddy Roosevelt Island, about 2.5 miles north of the Pentagon. I did a whole post about it based on promo stills -- you can see the Watergate and Georgetown Harbor immediately across from the helicarrier bay.
In re Bucky and the serum, clearly he didn't get the Deluxe Edition or he would be seven feet tall. (Which would be funny!) I'm willing to buy that Basic Edition gave him just enough regenerative capability to survive his unfortunate bout with gravity, and that he got the Strength Booster later on (or indeed, that his feats of strength are just movie universe feats, like failing to break your neck when falling from a great height).
Nah, in that scene where he jumped off of the bridge they showed the other guys he was working with having to rappel down. So he's meant to be significantly enhanced. But yeah, I think you've got to assume he got a lot of that later on.
I think we have to either assume that their truck was destroyed in the bombing of the base, or that the SHIELD/HYDRA team that showed up to mop up took it, but whatever -- Steve and Natasha couldn't have used it to drive all the way back to DC.
I actually assumed that they did. I mean, they left it outside of the gate, right? They certainly didn't walk out of there all the way back to DC.
For movie purposes I can see why they just skipped over that whole thing and of course I know the movie reasons why they had to end up at Sam's. I guess I'm just interested to see whether fandom pounces on those missing hours and missed opportunities and does anything with it.They... don't know... his address...? No, of course you're right, but I suspect this issue is going to turn into one that it isn't even worth it to try to fanwank, because it's going to get even more pervasive than it is now. Though now that I think of it, as they widen the universe that'll help - I mean, no one's going to wonder why Cap didn't call Gamora, you know
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In our universe, one that doesn't have thunder gods, and where helicarriers and metal suits have to obey the laws of physics. Maybe the wall fell later in their universe. Comics can get away with anything just by putting a different number after "Earth."
Also don't mention the Yankees, he has issues.
Heh. Well, nobody from Brooklyn in that era would ever root for the Yanks, and we know from the first movie that Steve was a Dodger fan, as was proper.
They just kept trying and Bucky was the only one who ever survived, maybe?
It's like the mirakuru in Arrow. Roy gets superpowers, everyone else bleeds to death through their eyes.
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Well, sure, but it seems kind of unfair to bring up a real-world thing and then be all "but actually the history is completely different!"
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But yes. The Fury sequence started out well -- they arrive in cop cars; heck they may be cops; the streets are deserted as if it were early morning -- but when you have cars explode in downtown Washington, and people don't flip their lids for weeks thereafter, my sense of reality begins to decline.
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I'm a little weirded out that in the comics, the Triskelion is actually a flying base, much like the helicarriers only bigger. So they can move it around and most often they plunk it in a body of water, like New York harbor. But I guess in the MCU continuity they've only had the repulsor technology to make the helicarriers fly for a short time, not long enough to have gotten their base in the air. And now, of course…
But there's certainly a large military that does its own operations. For one thing: Rhodey. For another, it's always the Army that's going after the Hulk. So they've got to be around.
It's definitely telling that we can handwave wacked-out geography and crap better than we can in-universe reactions that don't feel emotionally resonant in the right way.
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I actually assumed that they did. I mean, they left it outside of the gate, right? They certainly didn't walk out of there all the way back to DC.
For movie purposes I can see why they just skipped over that whole thing and of course I know the movie reasons why they had to end up at Sam's. I guess I'm just interested to see whether fandom pounces on those missing hours and missed opportunities and does anything with it.They... don't know... his address...? No, of course you're right, but I suspect this issue is going to turn into one that it isn't even worth it to try to fanwank, because it's going to get even more pervasive than it is now. Though now that I think of it, as they widen the universe that'll help - I mean, no one's going to wonder why Cap didn't call Gamora, you know ( ... )
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