Speaking of underreactions -- not just law enforcement. THE ARMED FORCES. Tell me the National Guard wouldn't have been scrambled for that causeway incident. Where were the jillions of helicopters that should have converged? etc
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I'm vaguely of the conviction that the Pentagon doesn't exist in-universe, simply because they would never allow a building that tall in their own back yard. Or else that the majority of the action was occurring in, like, Fredericksburg, so far up-river that you could drop three football-fields worth of airship into the drink without drowning the richest neighborhood in the nation's capital. How you get through WWII without the Pentagon I don't know, unless the Triskelion is built ON TOP OF the Pentagon and has absorbed it as an organization.
But yes. The Fury sequence started out well -- they arrive in cop cars; heck they may be cops; the streets are deserted as if it were early morning -- but when you have cars explode in downtown Washington, and people don't flip their lids for weeks thereafter, my sense of reality begins to decline.
Just checked -- the Triskelion does seem to be sitting right where the Pentagon ought to be. So that's interesting. Unfortunately, it's pretty clear that's where it is, because of the establishing shot views of the Jefferson Memorial and so on.
I'm a little weirded out that in the comics, the Triskelion is actually a flying base, much like the helicarriers only bigger. So they can move it around and most often they plunk it in a body of water, like New York harbor. But I guess in the MCU continuity they've only had the repulsor technology to make the helicarriers fly for a short time, not long enough to have gotten their base in the air. And now, of course…
But there's certainly a large military that does its own operations. For one thing: Rhodey. For another, it's always the Army that's going after the Hulk. So they've got to be around.
It's definitely telling that we can handwave wacked-out geography and crap better than we can in-universe reactions that don't feel emotionally resonant in the right way.
No. The Triskalion is on top of Teddy Roosevelt Island, about 2.5 miles north of the Pentagon. I did a whole post about it based on promo stills -- you can see the Watergate and Georgetown Harbor immediately across from the helicarrier bay.
Thank you! Ah, you're right -- the shot of the Watergate should have tipped me off. I kept meaning to try to look at the various views more closely and then kept forgetting until the movie had almost cut away again. (But I remember distinctly thinking "well done, movie, for framing that shot with the Watergate in plain sight behind Pierce
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At that point you start pushing at the edges of the genre, I suppose. If you want to tell a single story, then yeah, absolutely, things are changed wildly by the kind of happenings that the MCU is depicting - but they don't want to make that kind of wild change. I mean, it's like how New York City is still heavily populated despite the number of times it's been involved in Marvel apocalypses. At some point people are going to say to themselves, you know, I've heard good things about Chicago, and they say home prices are really low down in Raleigh-Durham...
So to some extent, people don't get to react like people would react. I mean, look at IM2. Senator Stern is COMPLETELY RIGHT. Also a HYDRA mole, but on the question of "should Tony Stark be allowed to run around with his highly weaponized flying suit of armor with no oversight," he's right! But admitting it would break the universe.
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But yes. The Fury sequence started out well -- they arrive in cop cars; heck they may be cops; the streets are deserted as if it were early morning -- but when you have cars explode in downtown Washington, and people don't flip their lids for weeks thereafter, my sense of reality begins to decline.
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I'm a little weirded out that in the comics, the Triskelion is actually a flying base, much like the helicarriers only bigger. So they can move it around and most often they plunk it in a body of water, like New York harbor. But I guess in the MCU continuity they've only had the repulsor technology to make the helicarriers fly for a short time, not long enough to have gotten their base in the air. And now, of course…
But there's certainly a large military that does its own operations. For one thing: Rhodey. For another, it's always the Army that's going after the Hulk. So they've got to be around.
It's definitely telling that we can handwave wacked-out geography and crap better than we can in-universe reactions that don't feel emotionally resonant in the right way.
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So to some extent, people don't get to react like people would react. I mean, look at IM2. Senator Stern is COMPLETELY RIGHT. Also a HYDRA mole, but on the question of "should Tony Stark be allowed to run around with his highly weaponized flying suit of armor with no oversight," he's right! But admitting it would break the universe.
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