People ask me about those shows a lot, because I'm a crime junkie and stuff, but, really? The more you read about real forensics...they don't stand up. I do love the look of the original show, though. Interesting forensic fact I read in(I think) Homicide...gunshot victims often fall to the ground shot because of TV. If someone is drunk or stoned, or for some other reason doesn't know he's been shot, they stand up longer.
I watched the first few eps of CSI: LV when it debuted, went "meh" and subsequently ignored it and the clones for years. Have lately watched a few recent eps because it's on after something else I like, and it's the first time in my life I've *ever* liked Ted Danson. (Didn't see Fishburne at all. Whatever
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Weirdly, even though I've never genuinely liked David Caruso in anything, I did sort of model a character in my last (published) novel after him, although by the time of actual publication I realized he was much more of a William H Macy than a David Caruso.
I really HATE self-righteousness as a character trait and I feel that the Horatio Cane character totally exudes it in a way that neither Mac Taylor or Grissom does/did. In fact, it's becoming a bit of a problem over on NCIS as well. Luckily I still like the rest of the team enough that I can put up with it from Gibbs, although I would seriously like for him to get a head-smack now and again. It's a pity that they recently killed off the one character who still have the ability to do it.
I liked CSI:Original Recipe and CSI:NY a lot but really dislike Miami, it's too cheesy and soap opera-y and David Caruso can't act, has no charisma and looks like Archie. All he needs is hash marks on his head and he can go hang out with Jughead and Veronica, I swear. I got so burned out on cop shows from being a child of the 70s that my roomie (who is more of a science guy than a cop guy) had to talk me into watching but I loved it until Grissom left (honestly, I can't look at Lawrence Fishburne without thinking Cowboy Curtis, the only thing that could have made his character interesting is if he had turned out to be a Dexter-type killer) and the whole thing with the serial killer who fell off of the lighthouse in NY and managed to not even get a bruise on him and sneak back into Danny and Lindsay's apartment so he could threaten their kid was RIDICULOUS. I will still watch the eps before then on DVD though.
I've expressed this before, but allow me to reiterate: American television needs mandatory euthanasia after five seasons. It ain't the 50's/60's/70's any more and we'll never produce another Gunsmoke. Given the 22 episode season being the norm for major networks, there is just no justification for shows being allowed to perpetuate themselves long after the producers have run out of original ideas and the shows have become hollow shells of whatever made them interesting to start out with.
So yeah, I'm happier with "organic" slash subtext that the producers deliberately quash then with fanservice which is deliberate by always a tease. I realize this is an unpopular opinion. Now what could this be referring to? (wonders) I actually never watched any CSI, because I stopped watching TV in 1984. So I'm looking forward to your posts to have a vague idea of what I missed ;).
It's funny, because the Mac/Danny "betrayal" happened at a point, where I still felt ok with the level of House/Wilson fanservice we were getting and didn't feel as manipulated and disgusted and I do now. Obviously I wish CSI-NY had been able to keep telling stories I found interesting without making Danny dislikeable and going out of their way to de-angst the Mac/Danny interactions, but I have to respect it more than (getting back to my favorite food metaphor) serving up Twinkies (or soda) as a cynical ploy to keep a single fanbase on the hook, while poisoning them at the same time.
As for House , I remember almost exactly when I first saw CSI (except that for House I remember it was exactly July 2004) : my cousin came to my place for a pizza with his girlfirend and after dinner he sat on the sofa and said : "You have to watch this ! It's really cool!" and so we watched one the first episodes of the first season. I liked it a lot for the first three/four seasons , and I shipped Grissom/Sara :-) I found Grissom very sexy, and only after a few time I realized he was the guy in Manhunter -I LOVED the beard instead :-) - and To live and die in LA
I really liked New York as well, but only for a couple of seasons, and never found anything interesting in Miami....
I feel bad that I (along with the general population) rejected Manhunter. In retrospect, it's SO MUCH better than I gave it credit for being at the time and Brian Cox's take on Hannibal Lector is so much less a caricature than what Anthony Hopkins has become.
I don't know WHY the beard put me off so much at the time, except that Will Graham wasn't Richard Chance (To Live and Die) and I was OBSESSED with the bad-ass mofoness of Chance.
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I really HATE self-righteousness as a character trait and I feel that the Horatio Cane character totally exudes it in a way that neither Mac Taylor or Grissom does/did. In fact, it's becoming a bit of a problem over on NCIS as well. Luckily I still like the rest of the team enough that I can put up with it from Gibbs, although I would seriously like for him to get a head-smack now and again. It's a pity that they recently killed off the one character who still have the ability to do it.
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I got so burned out on cop shows from being a child of the 70s that my roomie (who is more of a science guy than a cop guy) had to talk me into watching but I loved it until Grissom left (honestly, I can't look at Lawrence Fishburne without thinking Cowboy Curtis, the only thing that could have made his character interesting is if he had turned out to be a Dexter-type killer) and the whole thing with the serial killer who fell off of the lighthouse in NY and managed to not even get a bruise on him and sneak back into Danny and Lindsay's apartment so he could threaten their kid was RIDICULOUS. I will still watch the eps before then on DVD though.
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Now what could this be referring to? (wonders)
I actually never watched any CSI, because I stopped watching TV in 1984. So I'm looking forward to your posts to have a vague idea of what I missed ;).
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I found Grissom very sexy, and only after a few time I realized he was the guy in Manhunter -I LOVED the beard instead :-) - and To live and die in LA
I really liked New York as well, but only for a couple of seasons, and never found anything interesting in Miami....
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I don't know WHY the beard put me off so much at the time, except that Will Graham wasn't Richard Chance (To Live and Die) and I was OBSESSED with the bad-ass mofoness of Chance.
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