Obama Rocked By Triple Scandal -- Will He Survive? Will WE Survive?

[jordan179]

IntroductionAs those who have been following the news have probably noticed, the Obama Administration has recently been hit by three big scandals, coming all together.  Of these, the oldest (and most severe in terms of his primary role as Commander-in-Chief) is the Benghazi Embassy terrorist attack, and his incredibly incompetent and dishonest

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[metaphorsbwithu]

The media, despite knowing they have been and are being, played are still on Obama's side and their natural inclination is to minimize the damage

[jordan179]

I'm sure that the mainstream media will back off the scandals when it becomes obvious that the Obama Administration and their policies could suffer real damage, BUT ...

... I'm less certain than you are that

The GOP are always timid and will never try to impeach Obama for obvious reasons.Actually, a lot of the incentives would move the GOP to push for impeachment provided that they can get enough evidence

[madwriter]

"Also, the mainstream media is becoming increasingly less important..."

This.

They haven't figured that out yet, though. An increasing number of people of all political persuasions are both using the Internet as their primary (if not only) news source, and an increasing number are getting savvy about how to use it themselves.

[superversive]

Yes, and a lot of those people think the Huffington Post is a reliable news source - or, Gawdelpus, the Daily Kos or Democratic Underground. No help for you there.

[xolo]

I do love a trainwreck...

[superversive]

Frankly, I don’t share even your guarded optimism about 2016. Mr. Obama has gone too far already: he is in a position much like that of Sulla after his attack on the city of Rome - he has committed actions that cannot be called back, and that he will surely be punished for if he ever relinquishes power. Unless he is an order of magnitude more stupid than even I suppose (and I have come to consider him a very stupid man indeed), he knows that he has to find a way to retain the Presidency in 2016 in order to save himself from prison. Even if a loyal Democrat like Mrs. Clinton succeeds him, she will be under heavy temptation to appease the mob (and draw attention away from her own misdeeds) by throwing him under the bus, as he has done to so many others

[metaphorsbwithu]

Were you of adult age when Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait and followed the events as they unfolded

[superversive]

I was indeed of adult age at that time, and moreover, had studied a fair amount of military history

[jordan179]

Yeah. I grew up with the legacy of Vietnam and noticed that every single war from 1983 on was supposedly going to become a "quagmire just like Vietnam." To amplify your implicit point, I think that the signal victories George H. W. Bush and George W. Bush won against Iraq have been more or less retconned into "quagmires" by a mainstream media that finally became ideologically unified enough to outright ignore reality and report their fantasies instead.

Of course, the sequel to that was the decline of the formerly "mainstream" media to minority market share status. Audiences aren't as stupid as the MSM hoped, and many people noticed they were being lied to.

[banner]

In regards to Benghazi:

There has been some speculation that the reason Obama did nothing, and told the forces to stand down (and there were A LOT of forces in the area at the time), was that he wanted the embassy to fall and he wanted a hostage situation. Then he could send in the Marines, kick ass, take names, and be a hero.

Unfortunately he did not get his 'short victorious war' (no one ever does, but then our president is not a student of history) because the Navy Seals disobeyed direct orders, as well as several other people on the scene at the time and they got the staff out of there before they could be captured (and efforts were being made to capture them). I think the death of the Ambassador was unexpected, but I doubt Obama cares, he doesn't like gay people much after all.

[metaphorsbwithu]

I don't think so.

Look at Obama's history. When something happens he is nowhere to be seen and it takes him days, weeks, even months to make a decision - like with bin Laden, and he only gives the order in a way that should something bad happen, he can absolve himself of responsibility.

There were too many "What ifs?" in benghazi and so Obama probably just went to bed hoping things would be okay and that his minions would take care of the situation (as he claims he told Panetta).

1. Do what's necessary to make sure our guys are safe.
2. Find out what happened.
3. Make sure this doesn't happen again.

Good night! He's covered. Going to Vegas tomorrow.

Obama is not a leader. He's a politician and an ideologue to boot.

[banner]

But he is a Chicago politician. And I wouldn't be surprised if someone came up with that idea, and because they thought they could control it, they all went along with it.
then when the wheels came off they started pointing fingers. Didn't anyone notice how quickly they came up with the cover story for the attack? it was almost like they had planned it ahead of time.

[metaphorsbwithu]

If you think back, it was the "protests" in Egypt that was reported first and a barrage of apologies for the YouTube video ensued. It was many hours later that the attacks on the benghazi consulate began and Obama and the State department and all their henchmen began emphasizing that Benghazi was NOT an attack and not related to terrorism but that it was cause by that "disgusting video" on YouTube no one saw.

It continued for days, Hillary Clinton recorded commercial apologizing for it and a full 2 weeks later Obama blamed the attack on the video at the United nations in which he said something like, "The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam."

And all this just happened to happen on the 11th anniversary of 9/11.

[prester_scott]

Obama won't suffer any legal or electoral consequences whatsoever. I am convinced that most of the people who voted for him actually support him and all this on some level, even if only by passive acceptance because Obama and his party promise to keep the bread and circuses coming.

The only hope of restoring something like what our Constitution prescribes is on a smaller scale: state or local. The States are rapidly taking sides.