Classic Feminist Insanity

[jordan179]

This is a good example of feminism's increasing disconnect from reality.

Here's an excerpt and my response.

The dirty little secret that us mean feminists keep talking about - Patriarchy this, Patriarchy that - is that a lot of people, mostly men and hey, thanks to a lot of other nasty intersecting history, mostly western white men right now,

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[spikedpunch]

The problem with people like this is that as long as there are going to be men around, there is always going to be a problem no matter how much societial change has been made.

[fervid_dryfire]

The problem with people like this is that as long as there are going to be men around who refuse to be sniveling metrosexual wussies, there is always going to be a problem no matter how much societial change has been made.

FIFY

[spikedpunch]

Yeah, there is that too.

[marycatelli]

Well, duh. You don't expect them to give up their Grand Cause and go back to mundane work, do you? Not to mention that without the Grand Cause to add moral lustre to their days, they might have start doing stuff of quotidian goodness.

[st_rev]

Link is locked.

[marycatelli]

Hmm. Wonder how many people linked it.

[kc_anathema]

Nevermind that a lot of that power was ceded away from said patriarchy *by* said patriarchy. I'd like to think we all benefit hugely from the current system, and that we could benefit a lot more from the current system if people would stop whining about how bad the evil white guys are and just do for themselves.

[baron_waste]

marycatelli pegged that - there will always be “sexism” (and “racism”), no matter how fine the comb for it must be, no matter how bizarre and irrelevant the definition becomes - because there must be. Else, who ARE these people and why would anyone care?

[baron_waste]

The author doesn't know anything about those places, possibly couldn't even point them out on a map. Everyone in hir world speaks English.

[Though oddly, 'Dale' lists her location as Singapore, so you'd think she'd know better than this - if it's true.]

[blue_sky_day]

The modern west is not a patriarchy, full stop. The meme that the United States is patriarchal is one of the most bizarre memes the feminist establishment holds on to. Most professional feminists have very little intellectual integrity.

[jordan179]

There is a sense in which every human civilization, and most human societies, are patriarchial. This is because men tend to expend more of their efforts in public life, women in private life, even if they are not being forced to do so. The reason why is that women bear children; men don't. Though note that this is literally more of an "andrarchy" than a "patriarchy."

Having said that, the modern West is certainly the least patriarchial of all human civilizations, and possibly of all human cultures. What's more, historically the Anglosphere has been the least patriarchial part of the West; and America is one of the less patriarchial parts of the Anglosphere.

There are two reasons why the radical feminists try to identify the West as the main site of patriarchy. The first reason is that they believe that patriarchy is the key element of a system of class dominance in the Marxist sense and that, since the West and particularly America is globally-dominant, therefore America must have gained her power from and patriarchy must be

[sekhmetsat]

THIS, exactly. Not to mention most feminism is actually about "Why I should be the standard of hotness, not the supermodels, even though I am a fat ugly slovenly POS".

[cutelildrow]

I'll never forget how a bunch of ugly, older, angry women, invited to speak in front of an all-girls' college, went from preaching equality to saying the perfect man is the kind who submits to his wife, to saying beautiful women can never be feminists and can never be proponents of pure equality because they were born with an unfair advantage and because they are beautiful, they will always be given things, never really earn them.

I still remember the rage I felt seeing my classmates - impressionable, idealistic, lovely young women - crying as they were torn down by these women we were supposed to look up to. I remember standing in defiance and decrying what they were saying, that in order for a woman to be 'enough' in their eyes, we had to be ugly, disfigured perhaps, our faces maybe washed in acid first, before we 'qualified'. These 'feminists,' dressed in saris and that loose pajama like outfit I see on Muslim men raged at me for defying them, and condemned me as brainwashed by the patriarchy for speaking up on behalf of the