Confessions of a Neckbeard

Apr 10, 2012 01:58

Looking at this post by inverarity at http://inverarity.livejournal.com/136523.html?view=comments I think the real point of their argument is Looking at the other blog, I think the whole point of their argument is to say ( Read more... )

racism, sexism, "white male privilege", meta

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ford_prefect42 April 10 2012, 09:02:04 UTC
Arguing with such does get exhausting. Yet what else can men do against such reckless hate?

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mosinging1986 April 11 2012, 03:50:43 UTC
RIDE OUT AND MEET THEM!

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jasolater April 11 2012, 04:37:18 UTC
Haha!

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x_eleven April 10 2012, 09:11:43 UTC
"Mansplainin' 101"

I got that far, and clicked it away. I see terminology like that and I know exactly what's coming. No need for me to waste my time either by reading their bullshit, or trying to reason with batshit lefties.

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banner April 10 2012, 13:44:51 UTC
I wonder if his rolling on his back and exposing his belly gets him laid at all? Cause his self loathing man hating behavior is a pretty obvious ploy to get liberal women to want to go to bed with him.

When he pulls out expressions like 'neckbeard' and 'mansplanning' it is blatant that he hates men and that he subscribes to all of the BS arguments that man hating women pull out constantly. Pretty much all of his arguments were emotional 'how dare you criticize a woman because she has suffered far more than you neanderthal men will ever suffer and you just don't understand so shut up you f***ing bastards!' To be honest I'm tired of listening to such ball-less wonders.

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jordan179 April 10 2012, 15:52:34 UTC
I wonder if his rolling on his back and exposing his belly gets him laid at all? Cause his self loathing man hating behavior is a pretty obvious ploy to get liberal women to want to go to bed with him.

Possibly, though most women, including liberal women, actually despise men who approach them with the attitude "I will submit to all your prejudices." This attitude shows weakness and most women prefer strength to weakness.

When he pulls out expressions like 'neckbeard' and 'mansplanning' it is blatant that he hates men and that he subscribes to all of the BS arguments that man hating women pull out constantly.

"Neckbeard" is also a somewhat racist and sexist term in and of itself, since it is an insult directed toward white males as white males. Because whites tend to grow more ample facial hair, most people with the actual "neckbeards" would be white; and of course most people with any kinds of beards are male ( ... )

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polaris93 April 11 2012, 02:15:55 UTC
You're right in that most women prefer strength to weakness in partners of any kind (Andrea Dworkin was a glaring exception). I'm temped to say that a man who behaves in that contemptible way deserves the women it will attract -- who won't be many. Gack!

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40alatariel April 10 2012, 14:30:18 UTC
I, too, am sick of arguing with idiots. What can be done? The brainwashing seems to be complete. Met such a one this weekend who was so convinced of certain lies, that she could not hear anything else. Proof didn't matter. Logic didn't matter. Eye-witness accounts had to be anomalies, because they disagreed with her position. I do not debate well, so I merely walked away while she and her group chanted the sound bytes they had been taught.

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metaphorsbwithu April 10 2012, 16:07:46 UTC
You can't have a rational discussion with an ideologue.

I'd just point out to him/her/them that there is certainly some degree of racism, bigotry,and prejudice across the global spectrum but that they are subjective absolutists who simply want to control ideas and behavior, that they are limited in the worldview, have a huge problem with basic human nature, are doing no good for humanity, and are unfortunately simply adding a new layer of color with their own brand of rasism.

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jordan179 April 10 2012, 16:20:00 UTC
But see, the Institutional Racism theorists have a clever way of avoiding this reality -- and many people don't spot the flaw.

The evasion works by defining "racism" and "sexism" as institutional rather than individual. Racism supports the white and sexism the male institutional power structure. Thus, anti-white "racism" and anti-male "sexism" become impossible, by DEFINITION.

The flaw is that this is argument by pure tautology, and from bad premises. The first false assumption is that there is a monolithic power structure, based primarily on race and sex (in reality there are numerous power structures, and which one is relevant to you in a given situation depends on that particular situation). The second false assumption is that this power structure must necessarily be racist and sexist. The third false assumption is that the race being favored must by white and the sex being favored male ( ... )

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metaphorsbwithu April 10 2012, 16:35:14 UTC
Oh, no. I've got that part about "institutionalized racism."

It's part of Black Liberation Theology and those "politics of racism" profesors at Columbia and Harvard Obama and the left espouse.

This is why you can't "discuss" any subject rationally with the ideologue.

You simply have to point out you understand their frustration and lack of self-esteem and need to lash out at the people they assign their blame on.

Ideology and the accompanying need to feel superior knows no boounds. Look at Sudan/Darfur where Arab Muslims have been exterminating black Christians and black Muslims for decades.

You can't argue logic and facts, you just have to let them know you understand their feelings of inadequacy and helplessless, their need to be part of a movement or "congregation", their need to cling to their religious dogma and blame everyone but themselves for their failure, amd their naivete at being exploited by race-baiters.

You can't be defensive. You just have to get in their heads with truth and then slip away.

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expanding_x_man April 10 2012, 17:52:52 UTC
This leads to a situation where, essentially, the white males are patting the non-whites and females on the head for merely expressing opinions, even illogical and unsupported ones, with the subtext "isn't it amazing that people like this can speak?"Yes! I find this very irritating, as a non-white person. I find it condescending and racist actually, as you also note, and racist in the true sense that the person speaking does not see ME or the personhood, the individuality (of course, these leftists don't believe in that) of any so-called "POC" they are speaking to. It is really maddening ( ... )

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