I notice the same thing-- but I also notice that it tends to be the way that liberal women respond, too. And that a woman who tries to be rational and calls them on the name-calling gets called "masculinized" and the arguments are ignored.
WTF?
Maybe my family and closer friends are odd, but I sure don't see any higher probability of being rational among the men than the women. Only got that chestnut after high school!
Sure, the classic "mean girl" type bullying female at school attacks the person of those they disagree with, same way that the classic bully boy does physical attacks. ... Wait a sec. Think that explains it. The male/female dynamic if seen through immature eyes aimed on the "popular" as the perfect. *headdesk*
I didn't comment over there because Jordan already said everything I would have said anyway - and I'd have been dismissed as a race and gender traitor regardless of the points I would have made, because I dare not follow their lockstep march narrative, and thus dismissed as 'masculinised' or some other stupidity.
Why waste my time with idiots who have no interest in really discussing? I READ the thread and boggled at some of the stuff they were saying. "Equal, but Not Equal And Different" is a good summary of most of their stances. Holy shit, really?
It seems not to occur to them that, once they reject the premise of treating everyone as fundamentally-equal by not taking race and gender into account, they leave open formulations in which "equal but different" treatment works out as:
"We respect men in their spheres: business, leadership and war. And women in their spheres: bed, home and family. And whites in their jobs: science, technology and the arts. And blacks in theirs: in the fields, picking cotton. We treat all differently so that they are each equally respected for what they are?"
Farfetched? This is basically the logic that the Old South used to defend both their rather restrictive concept of "Southern womanhood" and of the "peculiar institution."
But oh, this could never happen, for Enlightened Folk are leading society today?
Your meta-thread posts always give me more people to ban. (Yeah, they'd almost certainly never comment in my journal anyway, but I'm petty and it feels good. As you say, some people simply aren't worth my time -- and for me personally, I draw that line to include far more people, and more quicly, than you probably do.)
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WTF?
Maybe my family and closer friends are odd, but I sure don't see any higher probability of being rational among the men than the women. Only got that chestnut after high school!
Sure, the classic "mean girl" type bullying female at school attacks the person of those they disagree with, same way that the classic bully boy does physical attacks.
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Wait a sec. Think that explains it. The male/female dynamic if seen through immature eyes aimed on the "popular" as the perfect. *headdesk*
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I didn't comment over there because Jordan already said everything I would have said anyway - and I'd have been dismissed as a race and gender traitor regardless of the points I would have made, because I dare not follow their lockstep march narrative, and thus dismissed as 'masculinised' or some other stupidity.
Why waste my time with idiots who have no interest in really discussing? I READ the thread and boggled at some of the stuff they were saying. "Equal, but Not Equal And Different" is a good summary of most of their stances. Holy shit, really?
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"We respect men in their spheres: business, leadership and war. And women in their spheres: bed, home and family. And whites in their jobs: science, technology and the arts. And blacks in theirs: in the fields, picking cotton. We treat all differently so that they are each equally respected for what they are?"
Farfetched? This is basically the logic that the Old South used to defend both their rather restrictive concept of "Southern womanhood" and of the "peculiar institution."
But oh, this could never happen, for Enlightened Folk are leading society today?
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I do two things with them.
1. Laugh at them (if they're not present)
OR
2. Ignore them.
I don't bother arguing with them. After all, what's the point?
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