Anarchy Among the Anarchists - A Mass of Naive Victims in Zucotti Park

[jordan179]

From http://melvin-udall.livejournal.com/1336190.html?view=8072318#t8072318 referencing Candace M. Giove, "Post Reporter Spends an 'In Tents' Night Amid Anarchy in Zucotti Park"Read more... )

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[cutelildrow]

...I'm afraid, really, they were asking for this. Reaping what they sow!

Cornered on the other side of the fast-food joint is Fisika Bezabeh, 27, a Zuccotti squatter who inexplicably returned to the eatery after allegedly clobbering a manager with a credit-card reader earlier in the night.

“We can’t take him in by ourselves,” yells another OWS security-force member.

The Zuccotti “cops” had just spent an hour and a half tracking Bezabeh through goat paths in the park armed with a description from the manager.

“We cannot take him in by ourselves, the cops have to come!” reiterates the OWS security force member.

Hmmm! I thought you guys didn't NEED THE COPS and would BRILLIANTLY HANDLE SECURITY YOURSELVES.

Oh? You can't?

Maybe you can't do the job the 'filthy cops' are trained to do = handle violent criminals.

They call the NYPD -- and it becomes abundantly clear that the cops down there are sick of the antics

[jordan179]

Hmmm! I thought you guys didn't NEED THE COPS and would BRILLIANTLY HANDLE SECURITY YOURSELVES.

Oh? You can't?

Maybe you can't do the job the 'filthy cops' are trained to do = handle violent criminals.

Part of the problem, of course, is that the Occupiers went into this assuming that "we don't need no steenkin' security!" So they made absolutely no preparations for it. Now, security isn't really a problem if you have 100 guys demonstrating in front of a place for a few hours, because everyone can recognize everyone else and they all showed up to follow a particular leader. It is a problem if you have thousands of people from many different factions occupying the same location for days and weeks on end, making themselves a stationary target for criminals.

Lucky for you it's their job and duty to keep you safe - and that this is a much kinder time, so no matter how much you spit in their faces and scream about police brutality, they're gonna arrest those preying on your sorry pathetic hides. In a different time, and hell, a

[actonrf]

Same here in Portland Oregon. Invade Portland movement has splintered to a so call non-violent and a terrorist group responsible fore recent vandalism.

[x_eleven]

What's going on here is the fundamental flaw with anarchy. Even if most of the Occupiers are non-violent, or at least non-violent toward other Occupiers, their lack of internal organization and in particular lack of effective law enforcement makes them a big attractive target for the violent.

What else did they expect? The same thing happened on a much smaller scale over a decade ago: Burned Fur Movement. Same problem: the Burned Furs prided themselves on being a "leaderless, grass roots" movement. They had no leadership who could decide that Burned Fur stands for X, and that Y isn't a part of the movement. Therefore, everyone involved saw in Burned Fur exactly what they wanted to see. For some, it was a "kick out the furverts movement", for others, a call for greater discretion amoung the fandom regarding public conduct, and what they revealed to inquiring reporters. For others, a public educational outreach to dispell misconceptions about the fandom. For yet others, a movement to eliminate yiffy and spoogy art. And for others, a

[ford_prefect42]

I've changed the name of OWS to "the rorschach movement" for that reason. Everyone sees what they want to see, but in the end, it's an inkblot.

[cutelildrow]

I like your term and the explanation behind it, and I think I will use it from now on. (And I thought this comment had gone through. Silly net.)

[mauser]

Don't believe everything you read on a Wiki, especially one that's been heavily revised by a fellow with a decade-old axe in need of grinding.

[dexeron]

I've been playing a lot of "Batman: Arkham City" (mostly because it's simply a fantastic game) but I can't help but be struck by how similar the conditions in that game (an entire city walled off and allowed to simply be a lawless anarchy) are to what you and cutelittledrow are describing. No, we're not talking about actual criminal maniacs and sentenced rapists and murderers run amok in a no-man's-land, but we are dealing with anarchy, and it's obvious consequences. They don't want cops, they don't want LAWS, and then they are surprised when stronger or less scrupulous individuals show up and start taking advantage of them? The obviously over-the-top hyperbole of that video game (and the deteriorating conditions evidenced therein) is shocking in a fictional context, but it's far more shocking just how over-the-top reality itself is getting here. We may not be talking about actual supervillians fighting masked vigilantes, but we are talking about an obscene level of violence, theft and disease, and behavior and attitudes that

[headnoises]

Amusingly, I just conveyed your comment to my husband-- who is also playing B:AC at the moment.

Then his character hit the street, the thugs stared, and then the NPC thugs found a rock to throw.... -.-

[polaris93]

Sadly, you're right. The Occupy movement is becoming a perfect microcosm of everything that has gone wrong with the mind of the American public. The '60s were bad, but copared to this, they were bastions of sanity and high intelligence. We seem to have raised a generation of empty-headed, deluded douchebags. And the only thing that can cure cure them of that condition is natural selection, God help them all.

[gothelittle]

“We are a microcosm of all of society’s defects and the failing economy,” DiGioia said. “Just because we’re here under a microscope, everybody’s going to come and throw up their arms and say we have to shut this place down.”

Or we could just brick it up and go on with a society bereft of its defects?

No, I am not seriously suggesting this, nor do I believe that it would rid us of all defects. But honestly, these people have a very bad way of communicating their thoughts and desires.