Do "the People" in Arab Countries Really Want Peace?

[jordan179]

We are often told that, whatever tyrants and terrorist leaders may want, "the people" of the Arab countries really want peace with Israel. Michael I. Krause, in "What Do Muslim Nations Think About Terrorists," American Thinker (http://www. ( Read more... )

Comments

[arhyalon]

This makes sense. So far as I can tell from history, only recently has the idea of not wanting war become popular.

One only has to read the beginning of Gone With The Wind to see a perfect example of how it used to be.

[jordan179]

Indeed ... and note that what the South regretted by 1865 was not fighting the war -- but losing it.

[polaris93]

I don't see how anyone can believe, after seeing those films on the Internet and TV of mobs of Muslims dancing in the streets, calling for the death of the US and Israel, that they could possibly hold any good will toward Israel (or us). Why the mainstream media continue to push the line that they do is beyond me -- unless they are deliberately trying to set the US and Israel up for surprise attacks by terrorists and Islamist groups.

[bdunbar]

I'll copy that link for later, with thanks.

As far as the Arab peoples are concerned, war with Israel is desirable, and Iran is significant primarily as an ally.

But whey do they feel this way? Is it down to agit-prop by their government? You tell a guy in school and on the media and in folk-stories that the Jews are bad and evil and must be done away with.

And .. hey sure 'nuff that's how they feel. Even if you turn off the tap they're going to pass that along to their kids.

Maybe it's the middle-class American in me but ... I can't shake the feeling that left to themselves people just want to get along, raise kids, put some money in the bank and cheer for the Packers on the weekend.

[banner]

It's their culture, it's human nature. Left to themselves... Wait a minute! They were left to themselves for thousands of years! What did they do? Why they slaughtered each other!

The middle east is a harsh environment, the competition for survival is high. So you kill off the competitors. Yes things are better now than before, but if they kill off everyone else, things will be even better!

Look, the whole european idea of 'cooperation makes all us successful' is alien to them. Human life has no value to them. None of those people would hesitate to take an action that would kill his neighbor if it meant a little better life, or a little more power. So you can imagine how they feel about people who 'aren't real because they're not here'. They're not much different than a pact of feral dogs.

[operations]

I stopped caring about them fuckers a long time ago. Nuke em all, speed them on to their 'Allah'. It's what they really want.

[jordan179]

I do think that there is a useful role for the strategy of changing political opinions of Muslim populations through propaganda, but I also think that it should be secondary to our real war objectives. Which is to say, we should remain aware that we are civilized, they barbarian, and thus should not consider changing our policies to please them.

[brezhnev]

I can understand why the Palestinians are angry. Still, two wrongs don't make a right. Things will eventually settle down, but it's not going to happen overnight.

[jordan179]

The Palestinian Arabs started the fight with the Jews; they feel "wronged" because they failed to win. Now, the Palestinian Arabs are in the moral position of a bully who, having failed to beat up his victim and, having been tied up by this victim to avoid future attacks from the bully, persists in continuing the fight by bashing his head repeatedly against the original victim's knee -- and then tries to solicit sympathy from onlookers by pointing to the resultant headache.

I have no sympathy for that sort of behavior.