Or srsly?

Sep 13, 2009 05:29

Scalzi makes a comment.

Oh waitaminute, so what you are saying, Mr Scalzi, is that people living in Ohio are missing out on big writing breaks?

ahem

How about people living in South-east Asia? There are many writers living in - say - Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia and the Philippines. And they are hardly in the epicenter of Writing ( Read more... )

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wyld_dandelyon September 12 2009, 22:26:18 UTC
The quote at the top of the page in this link, which is what I think you are reacting to here wasn't Mr. Scalzi's words. It's a quote that he is reacting to, with more than a little sarcasm.

With the internet, you have, at least potentially, a worldwide market. Hang in there!

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jolantru September 13 2009, 02:03:34 UTC
I read his sarcasm as bitterness. But then again, that's the Internet for you.

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wyld_dandelyon September 13 2009, 06:21:26 UTC
Sarcasm isn't one of the easiest things to interpret, especially with only words to go by. Knowing things like how successful Neil Gaiman is also helped me to interpret what he was saying ( ... )

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dulcinbradbury September 13 2009, 17:45:08 UTC
Since he really doesn't have any reason to be bitter, considering his success, I think it's just sarcasm.

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helen99 September 12 2009, 22:56:02 UTC
I read the whole thing, and I think I see what he's trying to say. He entirely missed the opportunity to communicate his thoughts due to the tone he took, though. I think he's saying that even in difficult-to-get-published areas, there are people living there who become recognized. He used Ohio as an example because he lives there - I don't think he was trying to ignore the fact that other places are even worse about publishing sf/f. He's telling people, no matter where they live, to put all feelings of hopelessness aside and reach for it no matter what. Discouraging, yes, but not a reason to give up.

By taking such a scathing tone, however, I think he failed the communication roll...

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jolantru September 13 2009, 02:04:39 UTC
Ditto there. The scathing tone has turned me off. I am not sure about others though.

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wyld_dandelyon September 13 2009, 06:24:44 UTC
I think the scathing tone was a deliberate stylistic choice. There are people who enjoy that kind of "biting humor". A lot.

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ladyqkat September 12 2009, 23:06:03 UTC
Understand waking up cranky.

I agree with wyld_dandelyon that you missed Mr. Scalzi's sarcasm. He lives, and works, in Ohio. He was pointing out that because he is in one of the 'fly over' states all of his awards and recognitions (two Nebulas, consultant on "Stargate: Universe", and others) are merely figments of his deranged imagination.

Arthur C. Clarke lived in Sri Lanka until his death last year and he was hailed as one of the greats of sf/f.

I do agree that it is harder for you to 'break into' the market, especially when your local market is small. I also know that you are an excellent writer who is not being recognized by others in your field of interest.

But I also know that there are many, many good writers all over the world who have the same difficulties and I think that is what Mr. Scalzi was pointing out. One does not need to live in one of the 'centers' of publishing to be published. One merely has to get the attention of someone in that business. And when you are hip deep in cubic zirconiums it is very difficult to spot the ( ... )

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jolantru September 13 2009, 02:07:08 UTC
As I have replied to the others, I read his tone as bitter and scathing. It's the Internet for you and his words are merely words on the screen. However, I picked up his tone and it probably wasn't what he originally intended.

That being said, I appreciate your words there.

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ladyqkat September 13 2009, 03:23:27 UTC
I've been reading him for some time now. Mind you, I haven't read any of his stories. I suspect that most of his works are harsher than what I like to read.

But I do respect him as a writer, even when he doesn't think before he writes. But, if you were to present your annoyance to him as a genuine concern for non-Americans, he might do a follow-up piece.

He is reasonable and he will try to present a different view as long as he is approached calmly and with reasoned arguments.

Point out to him that with the lack of venues to publish in you geographic area, you have little chance of finding a venue in some of the more viable markets unless someone were to, say, think about putting together an anthology of non-American writers , and then advertising heavily in areas where these fledgling writers might see it ( ... )

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jolantru September 13 2009, 03:25:55 UTC
I believe there is already the Philippines Science Fiction Sampler.

As for my area, I have to think about it first. But I know folks as well. So, I will see what I can do.

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tariq_kamal September 13 2009, 02:45:29 UTC
Yeah, I was kind of expecting this from you. Like, when I was reading this article, I actually think: "Wow, okay, so I know who's going to get pissed off with this..."

Seriously, though; Scalzi may actually have a point, but he's done this sort of thing before -- said something quick and easily-misinterpreted, and then later changed his tone. I suspect that this was one of those moments.

Mind you, the one complaining about living on the flyover state? Ha ha ha ha ha, your suffering is like candy for me, whiner.

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jolantru September 13 2009, 02:47:15 UTC
*LOL* *evil grin*

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jolantru September 13 2009, 02:51:33 UTC
And a second thing...

Doesn't he like think through first, before writing? *wry smile*

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ladyqkat September 13 2009, 03:24:53 UTC
Nah. He sometimes has a bad case of foot-in-mouth disease.

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marchskies September 13 2009, 03:57:53 UTC
(hugs)

I'm proud to be a reader of your work, and if it makes you feel a little bit better, I hail from a somewhat small town in the US.

Stay strong.

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jolantru September 13 2009, 04:04:03 UTC
*hugs back*

Thank you. :)

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