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orange_coat in jmbt_intp

Tips/exercises

Mar 30, 2009 13:57

Hey, I'm a browsing INFJ.

Was just wondering if you guys could give me tips on how to increase Ti or whatever thoughts you have about it (as that is your dominant function).

It just so happens to be my tertiary function.

Thanks a bunch!

-Sue

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You raise some pretty interesting questions montecristo March 31 2009, 04:27:24 UTC

1) Feelers can think, just as thinkers can feel. Ones type does not mean that one has a complete monopoly on one function and an absence of the other. My ex wife is an INFJ and I think she's a very smart woman and an adept thinker; she's just got a feeler type personality. I've always looked at type as more a question of style and approach more than as ability. Smart is as smart does; emotionally adept is as emotionally adept does.

2) Do you have a need to be someone else? I don't mean to pry but what's wrong with being the person you are? Is this an attempt to get a handle on someone else's perspective, per se?

3) If you're curious about what it's like to be more of a thinker type, wait until middle age when people's tertiary functions begin to develop and express themselves. Everything in it's proper time. What's your hurry? Why would you want to push yourself into some other channel if you're not ready?

Re: You raise some pretty interesting questions orange_coat March 31 2009, 07:41:15 UTC

Wow thanks for being so nice! I made some inquiries in the INTJ community, and my apparent NF-ness got me ripped apart. lol. Then again I have this tendency to "dump myself" onto people.. like an open-book, in a semi-desperate attempt to attain more accurate insight about myself.

Everything you pointed out is actually fairly on-target. Actually, completely so. I'm very much a feeler, but I also felt like being more T would allow me to be taken more seriously.

Alright, well. Maybe you can provide for me a lot of valuable insight? Here goes:

Re: You raise some pretty interesting questions orange_coat March 31 2009, 07:41:42 UTC

I fall into the trap of thinking I need validation from people in order to progress, and now all of a sudden I realize T's simply just don't seek it as much. This is part of why I was observing the pattern of how I think (as an F), to objectively look at what I'm doing/how I'm thinking ( ... )

Re: You raise some pretty interesting questions orange_coat March 31 2009, 07:45:14 UTC

I know this is very F-ish, it's like I'm dissecting myself. I spent all of last year being okay with myself regardless, in this orange_coat journal I did a lot of introspective analyzing. Although I don't actually write in it anymore ( ... )

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Ti is logic anonymous May 9 2009, 05:25:58 UTC

You are an idealist, intp's are rationals. we use logic to be utilitarian not cooperative. so while it may seem like we would be experts in Ti to help you figure out our tertiary preference, you would need to use logic as an augmentation of your Fe secondary function. We use it as a dominant function, and therefore it is not hidden by other higher order preferences, and is more full force as it were. People who are not logical can get on our nerves and visa versa ( ... )

Re: Ti is logic orange_coat May 12 2009, 04:57:14 UTC

You're exactly right, I do use Ti to understand people and their feelings.

I often wish I could be perceived as very logical so that I could be taken seriously, but I think I need to accept myself.

I also need to accept the importance of what I do contribute with my preferences/inclinations, and work with that. To try to be something other than I'm not may only hinder me.

Re: Ti is logic teawill December 19 2009, 16:06:48 UTC

The aim is to understand the universe, and therefore be able to predict its course, and therefore be able to control it.

This line made my heart skip a bit. \o/

kamitra August 2 2009, 13:29:44 UTC

My apologies for barging in and giving a reply to a long-dead topic. (perhaps not so dead?) My apologies to other board members for not being a member and posting ( ... )

orange_coat August 3 2009, 02:17:58 UTC

Not dead at all! Not to me!

Those are good points. I suppose I have grown since this post, and have learned to better work with who I am.

I have learned that I can be uniquely who I am, but discipline is not strictly belonging to one certain function (while lack of discipline is not strictly belonging to another certain function).

Discipline and efficiency can be achieved by any type, which makes me happy.

I've also learned that truth is approached from many different perspectives, and that is OK.

I must admit, though, that I am nearer to the F/T divide. This makes me happy, realizing that I don't necessarily have to conform to all the INFj ideals either.

Type isn't a limiting label and a person isn't confined by that label at all, rather it is a label describing a unique starting point for growth toward balance (and everyone has a different starting point). Everyone is growing in different ways toward balance, and that is OK.

kamitra August 4 2009, 09:05:59 UTC

I think that is a very beautiful statment. :)

Just thought I should say that.