jlh

the limits of knowing

Jun 24, 2011 11:19

But first: Does anyone want the three special EW True Blood covers? I got them free at work and am happy to ship out to someone who'd want all three. It's Anna Paquin with Moyer, Skarsgard and Manganiello in poses like American Gothic ( Read more... )

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bhanesidhe June 24 2011, 22:46:33 UTC
1) i'd love true blood swag. I dont think its the bestest shit ever but their adverts are always spiffy!

2) when i think I'm crazy; i write down the finer points of the 'splosion as if I were no where at all the part of the equation and present it, without sentiment, just as bullet-point to a battery of trusted people. Normally this gives my a range with which to aim at the middle for. It seems calculating and dispassionate, but it isn't, it just takes the anxiety and evil-self-judgy-val-itty out of the decision process. After a plan is form I can sit and have a bit of a cry/bitchfest/drink/punching session and even though everything is not "GOOD" it's still better than the madness that comes from being torn up about unfair choices. Etc.

3)I have two Rachels, three Ronnies, two Josh's and six Chris/Crys' in my life. I tend to only figure out which people are talking about, depending on whose talking. And that's after years of practice. You're not idiot, you're lovely. tru fact.

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jlh June 25 2011, 03:50:20 UTC
I will put the mags in with the stuff from Ali's place, and I will email you about coming up next week!

I wish I could force myself into that much dispassion. I find that it's only when I keep thinking about it and thinking about it that I get down to the root of whatever is actually going on. Like at the time it looks like X, but really the problem is Y. Right now I'm thinking, wow, people who are super serious and have no real senses of humor? I keep thinking they're more "right" than I am because I'm silly by comparison. But of course that's not true at all.

People I know, I'm not ashamed to say, wait, who do you mean? because there's no value judgment. There isn't an idea that one is or should be more important than the other.

THANK YOU!

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bhanesidhe June 25 2011, 18:44:43 UTC
Its not a crazy easy process. in fact, the only time it's ever proven to be really productive as a process is when I seclude myself and give a 48 hours to run it thru my brain before mentioning it, hypothetically to anyone else ( ... )

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roseandheather June 24 2011, 22:55:09 UTC
Honestly, names identify people. When I hear the name "Barbara" now, I am not going to think "Barbara Boxer, high-level politician" or even "Barbra Streisand." I am going to think "Barbara Havers," because she invades my brain on an hourly basis, and sometimes more. When someone says the name "Rachel" I am going to think of Rachel Maddow because I watch her every night, and when someone says the name "Hillary" I am going to think "Clinton" and not "Duff" or "Swank" unless I've just walked out of a movie starring one of them ( ... )

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jlh June 25 2011, 04:06:26 UTC
I am realizing that I feel very silently judged by people who only think about Very Important Things and talk about how they have Such High Standards. Probably because I watch them judging so many other people all the time. But other people's value judgements, ugh!

Because you're right; it shouldn't mean anything that I don't know the name of the wikileaker off the top of my head. I mean, I know who Daniel Ellsberg is, but obviously I don't expect other people to always know that name off the top of their heads. (I wonder if the same kinds of people did, though, in 1970?)

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jehane_writes June 25 2011, 00:54:02 UTC
First off, I was gutted about Clarence, too. RIP, Big Man.

Second, I always try to give context. It's part of effective communication, imo, and I think it's always better to explain where you're coming from, unless you do it in a condescending way. Because? IMO, /not explaining/ (and then making fun of the people that don't get it) isn't only entitled, it's also high-school- cliquey: to me, it says, "Here is a huge obscure in-joke which only the cool kids like me and my friends get, and you don't. Too bad so sad."

And that makes me tired, because I'm too old for these cliquey games. But then I don't do Twitter, purely because I know I can't keep abreast of the in-jokes and lingo. Occasionally, if some tweet or bit of gossip relates to a fandom I like, I'll ask the teenagers on my f-list for a translation :)

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jlh June 25 2011, 04:16:34 UTC
I always try to give context and it's not like you can't on twitter; you can always tweet a link. And generally I don't follow people who tweet about politics; I find the compression of complex ideas into a small space and the simplification that goes with that to be incredibly frustrating. I can actually agree with them, and still want to punch them in the face.

I'm always surprised at how old people can be and still be cliquey and in-jokey because I'm also too old for it! It's just really bad manners, I think. I can't stand it when people make cryptic posts. Or if you must, agree to explain. But generally, I like context and I like to give it!

I find that twitter mostly depends on who you follow. In very very large part, I follow awesome people who aren't crazy spammy and say fun and interesting things about the world and their lives. I don't really use it for fandom though I do follow Ryan.

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