Jelgate's Two Cents-Divided

[jelgate]

We all knew this was coming. It was obvious from day 1 when Rush stranded everyone on the Destiny. Its inevitable when to different kind of people are stuck in a common area. Its inevitable that these kind of people will begin to clash and makes changes. And because I read spoilers I knew a huge confrontation but for it to happen like this was

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[laetificat]

I think you're spot on! Hi, i'm here from the sgu_destiny comm.

I think as long as they were in an understandable atmosphere many of the scientists -- civilians, but under the orders of government agencies -- were able to take orders while they did their work, like Daniel or Lee consistently did and would have continued to do. There's a safety net there, people like O'Neill and Carter who have your back, and a government that puts checks and balances on things. But they're not in an understandable atmosphere, so that safety net is gone. Young is not O'Neill or Carter and there are absolutely NO checks or balances.

I think it would definitely help them to ask Earth or Jack who's in charge, although at this point -- do you think it would matter? I don't really think so. The people on Atlantis had a lot of respect for Weir, so it made sense for Sheppard to take orders from her. But nobody on Destiny respects anyone else on Destiny, and that's the main problem.

[jelgate]

Most people follow me from SGU Destiny. Its why I post them there.

The more a think about it their needs to be a joint committe of both military and civilians who are in charge of tthe Destiny. With Young having direct control in emergency military matters

Oh yeah, it has two parts.

[thedrowned]

Saw this from sgu_destiny. Just want to point out that I'm not completely disagreeing with you, and playing the devil's advocate half the time.

The whole dream sequence was so yawn worthy.
Think of it like this: Chloe and Rush could have just told each other about it, and we'd believe it. But it's better to show. I'm sure you've heard of "show don't tell" - it puts us in her shoes as far as the nightmare is concerned, and it truly moves her. I think without the dream sequence we would find it suddenly convenient that Rush had a transmitter. Think of the nightmare as a type of foreshadowing. While I agree it could have been more spooky, it had its place in the show.

Come on we know he would have done it if it wasn't for the intervention of Wray.I don't think he would have wanted to let them die simply because Young wouldn't let him hear the end of it. I doubt Wray, alone, had anything to do with it, especially because Chloe also gave her impassioned plea to not knock off her boyfriend. It was also a twofer as far as Rush was concerned - get rid

Last bit~

[thedrowned]

I thought she was friends with Eli and Scott. It just seems she backstabbed them in this whole ordeal.
I'm playing the devil's advocate with this one, but I earnestly think as far as Chloe is concerned, she's not as dumb and ditzy as she appears, and finds more reasoning in civilian leadership. No one ever said being stuck on the same boat wouldn't have its consequences, and I'm pretty sure Chloe felt a little closer to Rush because of their predicament.

It also shows that Eli is a better poker player then I thought.
And here's another thought for you: why don't you think it very shocking that Eli sided with the military? (Technically, he didn't, but…) He helped them in buying them time and okayed their use of the scheme, which implies he thinks Rush is in the wrong. So why would the guy who's been basically glued to Rush's side the whole show go against him? Not disagreeing, just enforcing some other-sided thought. I can already tell what side you're on. ^_~

A military mindset would be to fire with all of what you got.And this is a

Re: Last bit~

[jelgate]

I never found Chloe to be dumb and ditzy but to betray your friends says a lot about your character and not in a good way. Rush and Chloe being close is just plain creepy.

Eli seemed really stressed out and bitter at Young in Space. Honestly I did not know which way he wad going to lean in Divided. I am kind of confused on the rest of what you are trying to say

I can agree with this.

I honestly don't think the civilians thought the long term aspects of this. They felt oppressed (rather if its true or not)and just had to do something to get control. It wasn't very well thought out. I don't know if Greer was out of line. He was just trying to calm the civilians down. Its quite simliar what happen in riot situations. To calm the peace. I think Young civilians fine as long as your name isn't Dr. Rush. As for Young have the training that is obvious

Re: Oh yeah, it has two parts.

[jelgate]

Given the polarizing and controversal nature of SGU its only logical and as I pick a side its only natural I would get disagreements from the other side. As long as a person doesn't attack my intergrity (yes it happens) I have no problem. When that happens I delete comments

[colls]

Catching up with episodes a bit late, but I thoroughly enjoyed this one

[jelgate]

I have no doubt them only knowing one side of the Justice scenario is why the civiliians muntied but why didn't any of the soldiers munity against Young as well if everyone feared what he did to Rush? To me the division were more black and white that they would be in reality

I'm curuous as that as well. Sounds like a B or even C plot for the comming episodes. But I hope they don't forget this.

I don't know. It could be argued since the military are trained to survive they should be in charge. Realasticly both sides should have power or one groups can feel oppressed

BSG is just one big blur to me. You'll have to remind what that episode is.

[rodlox]

all I can say is, yes, that was Lt James who quieted the unruly.