Comments | jbarros: Gays, Thelemites, Mormons and Government

jbarros

Gays, Thelemites, Mormons and Government

Feb 05, 2009 15:06

Every Brother is expected to use all his influence with persons in a superior station of life (so called) to induce them to join the Order. Royal personages, ministers of State, high officials in the Diplomatic, Naval, Military, and Civil Services are particularly to be sought after, for it is intended ultimately that the temporal power of the ( Read more... )

gay, oto, government

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slawson01 February 6 2009, 01:49:15 UTC

Your link to the investigation on queerty requires registration at a minimum. As such I did not read it.

I must say that I agree. It is not in anyone's best interest to use bad law just because it may suit your current purpose.

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slawson01 February 6 2009, 16:34:21 UTC

Cool, I'll look at it after work.

jbarros February 6 2009, 17:26:32 UTC

Sorry, edited to fix the link.

thiebes February 13 2009, 23:05:36 UTC

mendaxveritas' article strikes me as rather ignorant. He's not a lawyer of any kind as far as I know, much less an Australian lawyer, and several of the notions he puts forward in this article were easily refuted by someone who is an Australian lawyer. Not to mention, he seems to ignore the clause of Liber Oz which states, "Man has the right to live by his own law."

They want to have democracy, but when democracy doesn't want them, they can not rise up against it, because their own ideals are egalitarian, and can not deny the mob rule which would suppress them.

This is the rationale for having a republic, as we do, instead of a democracy. To protect the minority from mob rule.

What are the goals of the OTO...?Do you really not know this? Or was this just rhetorical to introduce the ideas following ( ... )

jbarros February 14 2009, 00:02:43 UTC

I asked what the goals of the OTO are, because the actions of the OTO and of individual Thelemites within the OTO seem to be contrary to the goals set out in, eg, Liber CI.

This isn't, however, as simple as a criticism of the current leadership. I believe it was Germer who specified that the Order should file for legal recognition in a '48 letter to McMurtry sited in This Court Case.

My immediate belief would be that we would not care for a government recognition which conferred bonds and created a group liability, with the only (apparent to me) upside being that our big brother the US Government will get our backs on things like copyright lawI'm not so vain as to think I know more than so many people who came before me, however, I will not hesitate to say what I think, in the hope that I might be corrected and better understand why the hell people are doing this, because honestly, I don't get it ( ... )

thiebes February 14 2009, 00:26:03 UTC

I will not hesitate to say what I think, in the hope that I might be corrected and better understand why the hell people are doing this, because honestly, I don't get it.I'm glad to hear that you won't hesitate to say what you think. I hope that I can provide some small amount of perspective in responding ( ... )

jbarros February 14 2009, 00:43:13 UTC

1.) So our authority is derived from the State. I don't really like that ( ... )

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