Lesson Plansmatthew_gSeptember 9 2002, 09:13:47 UTC
I have to agree about the too-many-teachers syndrome. I had a clear example of it yesterday when I was trying show NewKid01 the basics. Three different people came by the instruction to 'assist' or just shouted their comments from the stage.
Essentially, I am trying to unify teaching at least between you and I. I think getting everyone to even use the same order of teaching, with approximate skill levels before moving onto the next thing is a daydream, but you and I can at least approximate one another. Or so I think.
Please, please, PLEASE unify. :) I remember one time I was drilling and I got advice from 5 different people, all of it conflicting and dammit, I just about threw my schlager away and storm out of there.
Again, like I said in my comment below, give me a poke. I'm still a relative newbie, and I can pretty much give you a good pespective on the present teaching practices from a new person/student standpoint.
I think two newbie people is ideal. One, it provides a back up if one of the two are not available. Two, they can both specialize in one of two methods, i.e., one does drills, and one does technique and theory; and finally, two is not over-whelming, at least from my perspective. Having two people designated as the newbie people limits access to the newbies, but it also enables the newbie to develop in a rather realxing, yet standardized environment, rather than learning in the haphazard manner which has been my experience in fencing thus far
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Perhaps you and Magnus could teach a class on 'teching the newperson' at Practicum or FITP so more people will be on the same page. OR get a discussion about it going on the Marshalls list.
To digress for a moment, Magnus wants to get together and talk about a lesson plan for teaching new people in the SCA. I think that this is a good idea except for the fact that we have so many "Teachers" AKA people who offer their opinions on stuff that it is impossible to give someone the basics with a consistent view point without someone offering suggestions to the student on how to improve their style. I know i do it too but i try not to do it outside of the context of what is being taught as opposed to telling someone about offline fighting when they aretrying to learn lunges. What I think would be a good idea if there is one or two set people designated at practice for handling new people. From someone who has started relatively recently, I cannot begin to tell you how confusing it is to be bounced from person to person, each person giving sometimes conflicting advice on technique. It is bloody annoying and off-putting. Its pretty much the reason that on the off-chance that I do suit up to practice, I usually practice with
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if i where to cut a persons spine so that they never knew it and never felt it, would that be an ethical treatment of execution? i believe the border between life and murder is slowly fading, so that there will be no morality connected with death. if you dueled a man and killed him, then his friends buried you deep below the earth to starve, would they be justified? is there a thing as ethical murder? what is the definition of life.
there is no rule, but it is always broken. would you break the rule if the time was right?
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Essentially, I am trying to unify teaching at least between you and I. I think getting everyone to even use the same order of teaching, with approximate skill levels before moving onto the next thing is a daydream, but you and I can at least approximate one another. Or so I think.
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Again, like I said in my comment below, give me a poke. I'm still a relative newbie, and I can pretty much give you a good pespective on the present teaching practices from a new person/student standpoint.
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sounds like something to bring up with the other marshals.
Now a newbie person is a good idea. Atleast for the first few practices anyway.
It is hard to pick who though, Skud responded to Lynch, I responded to Matthew_g's teaching.
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To digress for a moment, Magnus wants to get together and talk about a lesson plan for teaching new people in the SCA. I think that this is a good idea except for the fact that we have so many "Teachers" AKA people who offer their opinions on stuff that it is impossible to give someone the basics with a consistent view point without someone offering suggestions to the student on how to improve their style. I know i do it too but i try not to do it outside of the context of what is being taught as opposed to telling someone about offline fighting when they aretrying to learn lunges.
What I think would be a good idea if there is one or two set people designated at practice for handling new people. From someone who has started relatively recently, I cannot begin to tell you how confusing it is to be bounced from person to person, each person giving sometimes conflicting advice on technique. It is bloody annoying and off-putting. Its pretty much the reason that on the off-chance that I do suit up to practice, I usually practice with ( ... )
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there is no rule, but it is always broken.
would you break the rule if the time was right?
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