and i quiver in fear as disney steals another piece of my soul

[ivy_chan]

Disney rumor: hand-written film to be an adaptation of Terry Pratchett's book 'Mort'

Okay. I am absolutely terrified. One: because I don't trust Disney and their bullshit to even attempt to tackle Discworld, Two: because I don't know how well the book will come out in movie form, having seen The Hogfather. I'm afraid that they'll make Ysabell a lot

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[lvsinsanity]

I'm still pissed at how horrible Disney treats it women, even IF they chose a Pratchett book, they would butcher the strong female roles in them and probably make them some bumbling crap fill role on the side.

[ivy_chan]

Pretty much. I'm shuddering in preparation of Tangled already, do I really need a shrinking violet Ysabell? Come on, Disney, Pratchett is not in your league right now.

[lvsinsanity]

Pratchett will never be in Disney's league.

[celarania]

I have to admit that I've never read Discworld, but to be fair Rapunzel was looking really good for a really long time before Glen Keane was removed from directing it (but I've heard that it's going to be better than the trailers make it look, and after Princess and the Frog, I might believe it). Also, Disney has shown some interest in stuff that's not just for kids (Double Dare You was cancelled, but you can see intent/expansion). Also, Disney has definitely been getting a lot of good female characters since the 80's.

[ivy_chan]

Now is really not a good time for me to discuss my epic feelings about Disney's treatment of female characters and princess characters in particular, because it's long and involved and Pixar is introduced and I rant about Pixar. Let it simply be said that I don't trust Disney to make good female characters, and when they do, they still tend to sideline them

[celarania]

I kind of agree with a lack of female leads in Pixar, but Brave kind of shuts me up about that. More than having a female main character, it has a female director which is huge (it's like the third animated film to be directed by a woman). As for sidelining female characters, I think they get better roles than average for a movie without a target gender. There are some movies where they don't have huge roles, but they also have movies where it's all about the female characters.

Double Dare You was a project of animated films (shorts?) by Del Toro for audiences of all ages.

Yeah, the marketing is terrible, but from what I've seen in the concept art it's just the trailer. I mean think about what portion of the movie we're seeing in the trailers - boy is introduced, boy finds girl in tower, girl reacts to boy... and that's it. :/ No more of the real movie. The marketing was a bad decision (they should be going to a general audience), but marketing != movie.

[samatethecookie]

More than having a female main character, it has a female director which is huge (it's like the third animated film to be directed by a woman)

They did have a female director, but a few weeks ago Brenda Chapman was removed as the director without a reason given. She was replaced by Mark Andrews. Hopefully it just involved a personal crisis or mere creative difference, but considering she left Pixar in the same note and she directed other great films in the past, it just doesn't look good.

[aerodactylus]

I have never read Discworld, so I can't really comment on that, but what are they doing to Rapunzel?

[ivy_chan]

Rapunzel fucked up when they decided a girl-centric movie would be bad for the boy audience, they took away the name of the movie and called it 'Tangled' (despite having movies called 'Aladdin' and 'Tarzan' and the male-gendered 'Lion King'), gave the male romantic lead a humongous chunk of the attention, and spent a lot of time ignoring Rapunzel to the point where she has absolutely no lines in the previews I've seen

[aerodactylus]

Oh, is that what that is? There's an ad for it at the bus stop down the street from me, but I had no idea what it was referring to. I haven't even seen any previews for it. But yeah, a Rapunzel movie that is not about Rapunzel makes approximately no sense.

[ivy_chan]

Pretty much. Just make a movie about some dude if you want, but don't hijack Rapunzel's story!

[samatethecookie]

Yeah, as big of a Disney and Pixar lover as I am, I'm starting to get really disappointed with both studios equally at this point. The movie still looks like it's going to perform well, but I just don't understand their decision to rename Rapunzel 'Tangled' when they probably wouldn't rename, I don't know, Hercules to draw if they were concerned about a female audience.

As for Pixar, I still love their movies but I really wish they'd just have a girl in one film that wasn't a supporting character. Yeah, there's Brave, but then after that, what are they going to do? It's ridiculous enough to wait that long to finally get a movie with a female lead.

[ivy_chan]

I really hope the movie isn't going to be what it looks like it's going to be. I'll wait for reactions before I bother paying for a ticket to see it. I hate it when they're concerned for the male audience, because they're never concerned for any good reason aside from 'what if the boys get girl cooties?' Well. They can WATCH THEIR OWN MOVIE, THEN.

I'm really feeling the Pixar disappointment. I love their movies too, but it's disheartening to see the ladies in them. Their plots are very dude-centric.

[samatethecookie]

I might see it only because my little sister's more excited about it than I am. I doubt it, since I don't see that many movies in the theater anymore. If I ever do, I'll be the first to post my reaction and let everyone know what I thought about it. I hope it's going to work all right, but I have this dreadful feeling that it's not going to end well. The problem with the movie started when they decided to take the focus off of Rapunzel and try to convince an audience that her love-interest, the man, is actually the main character, and I really don't like considering the idea that they butchered the hell out of it to make it about him. Unless I hear otherwise, I'll remain suspicious.

Also, I'm not familiar with the book they're showing an interest in, but I feel for you so much. It's so rare to find any good movies based on books nowadays, so by default I don't trust that Disney isn't going to butcher the hell out of it.

[bewarethespork]

Am I the only person in the entire world who thoroughly enjoyed the TV adaptation of Hogfather, or what?

[ivy_chan]

*lol* I'm sorry. I think it had its good points, but some of the acting left me flat, and Teatime just didn't do it for me. I loved Death and Ridcully, though.

[bewarethespork]

I was scared witless by Teatime the first time around, but not so much from the second viewing onwards. I loved the Wizards, Death, Susan and pretty much every other character, though (special mention goes to Visit! I thought he was great), and I thought the whole thing was beautifully costumed and shot. I watched it once with my little siblings, and they adored it as well - enough that even though they're a bit too young for Pratchett, a couple of them demanded that I lend them my books. (I did go through The Last Hero with my youngest brother - he loved the illustrations. :D)