happy days are here again

[ivy_chan]

I watched Glee for the first time since forever with my sister last night, for lack of anything better to do. It was the episode where there's a duet competition, and everyone's pairing up for the prize of a free dinner for two at Breadsticks. It was strange, because in this episode, almost no one (Finn) was a raging hosebeast towards each other

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[yamiloo]

Lesbian cheerleaders.

There are lesbian cheerleaders in Glee.

Why did nobody ever mention this? WHY DOES NOBODY TALK ABOUT THE LESBIAN CHEERLEADERS.

I would have been watching this a million years ago if someone told me.

[ivy_chan]

Not gonna lie, there's tons of fail all over the show. It's good for being funny crack at it's best, at it's worst it's just offensive.

[bookelfe]

This was actually the first episode of Glee I've seen since the first . . . five or six, based on good reviews and listening to the amazing recording of River Deep, Mountain High. I enjoyed it! I'm trying not to let it suck me back in again. >.>

[ivy_chan]

Seriously, that episode was actually good enough to make me watch the next one. Which I will do with a sense of trepidation.

[hungrytiger11]

Reading this, I think helped me pin down some of the underlying issues I haave aobut Glee, and why I have them. In high school, I was involved in a lot at high school; our school was the just the right size that one could be involved in four or five different clubs and such. Most of the friends I made, I made through extra curricular activities. Wasn't so good at the hanging-out-outside-of-activities (partly because theatre went till 10 pm but still). Anyway, all this meant since the show is about a club, I too, was expecting friendships to bloom. The show occasionally tries to work that angle but... its just not there. Somehow, a realization that I shouldn't expect that makes it easier, if sadder too...

[ivy_chan]

Yes, there's something about a club setting that makes me expect close-knit relationships, and the show doesn't deliver. I think they fail as far as building up the relationships; they assume they're in place already and try to have them do BFF stuff, but it doesn't fly because a couple episodes ago these people were biting each other's heads off.

[redbrunja]

I feel like the show is going to do the friendship/nakama angle. Which I LOVE. I think one of my favorite tropes in writing or visual media is strong family bonds or friendship bonds so close it appears familial.

I'm in the same boat re:nakama (which is why Cowboy Bebop failed for me) and I think with Glee, it's like the writers haven't quite realized that they haven't written the nakama already? Like, I think they think the groundwork is already laid for the tension but they don't realize that the group has never been cohesive enough for us to buy things like, say, the whole group being upset when Rachel got egged.

[ivy_chan]

Yeeeah, exactly. I couldn't buy that scene because of how they treated her when she was dating Jesse and how they treated her relationship with Jesse. I kept waiting for them to rub it in her face, since that's the sort of behavior I'm used to them exhibiting towards Rachel. I'm GLAD they were upset, but didn't quite buy it.

I think you're right about the writers not realizing what they're doing. They set out these situations that would work for a tightly-knit group, but they haven't built the relationships up to the point where it's believable. And it rings false when we see them being supportive when only an episode ago they were being horrible. I get whiplash watching these people.

[redbrunja]

I get whiplash watching these people.

Don't we all.