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Nov 26, 2008 10:00

Things I was tempted to spam you about in the last week or so, all in one handy post.

  1. I know it's deeply tedious to LJ about having trouble getting onto LJ, but the servers are significantly less robust since the move, y/y?
  2. I liked the remake of Terry Nation's One Other Good Idea Survivors, myself. ( minor spoilers for the opener, haven't seen #2 yet )

doctor who, comics, telleh, ljing about lj, survivors, fic, music

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nostalgia_lj November 26 2008, 10:15:21 UTC
I have always hated Nine's inability to take the tough choice

"Earth is already fucked, Doctor, just press the fucking button and wipe out the Daleks and save untold billions of lives."

Ten talks the talk of not doing that, but I think he could. As long as he wasn't busy making a point of not doing it because some other bugger is there to make the choice for him.

If I do should I post about it, or would it become tedious and be too likely to be hatey?

I'd read it.

If I do do a S1 rewatchathon, Father's Day is going to get a heavy drubbing

It gets the emotion by having the characters act like fucking idiots.

You're right, Nu Who doesn't earn it a lot of the time. And it cheats and tries to get what it doesn't deserve. Doomsday? Sorry, that's their own fucking fault and I'd like it to accept that after setting it up in the first place. And I don't think it's done enough to build on the Time War Emo, such that it's just getting repetitive and old and not going anywhere new.

Am not sure what I make of the Rani/Clyde I've ( ... )

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ionlylurkhere November 26 2008, 10:35:31 UTC
"Earth is already fucked, Doctor, just press the fucking button and wipe out the Daleks and save untold billions of lives."

That bit makes me sing that Sugababes song at him.

Ten talks the talk of not doing that, but I think he could.

I think his talking about it is all about trying to convince himself when he knows he has a good dollop of Seven in his makeup.

It gets the emotion by having the characters act like fucking idiots.

And we are supposed to forgive the fucking idiocy because of the emotion. OMG PARADOX!

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nostalgia_lj November 26 2008, 10:51:15 UTC
That bit makes me sing that Sugababes song at him.

I do not know the music young people listen to.

I think his talking about it is all about trying to convince himself when he knows he has a good dollop of Seven in his makeup.

My usual fanon is that Ten copes better than Nine because Ten is the sort of person who could asplode the planet to save the universe.

And we are supposed to forgive the fucking idiocy because of the emotion. OMG PARADOX!

IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT YOU HAVE NO SOUL.

Maybe I'd care more if I'd still liked the characters by that point. I was sick of Nine by then and already hated Rose as the useless bint she was. Oh how naive I was not to think she could get worse.

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peeeeeeet November 26 2008, 10:30:51 UTC
I have also been contemplating a season one rewatchathon. I have almost forgotten Nine. I keep seeing bits on Dave or Watch or one of those things. The last ten minutes of Parting of the Ways still works, even though it doesn't make any sense (heart of TARDIS = time vortex = all things eveh??). You'd think at some point the Master would have tried the thing with the yellow truck. Doctor leaves TARDIS unlocked + a few seconds of brute force = ultimate power!

Meanwhile, did you happen to receive my latest email? I like saying things like that because it is impossible to work out which one I might be referring to. But in this case it was sent last Wednesday.

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ionlylurkhere November 26 2008, 10:33:49 UTC
Yes, I did, sorry I am planning to have another look and try and be Specific and Useful but haven't got round to it yet. Soon. Ish. I hope. But you know what I am like.

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peeeeeeet November 26 2008, 11:41:20 UTC
Oh don't go to any trouble if it's not Quite Obvious.

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drakyndra November 26 2008, 14:08:46 UTC
5. I have found my opinion of S1 has gradually decreasing as time passes. Partially because I've never been huge on Nine, and partially because, as you said, a lot of the stuff that seemed okay at the time now starts to look a bit suspect.

6. I would have to agree with you, there - it's not so much the amount of emotion as it is the way there is no variation. The characters seem to swing from EPICLY TRAGIC to EPICLY DELIGHTED with little inbetween. Which is where the earning them thing comes in - proper character development needs a bit more complexity than that. Like you said, it makes them look either insensitive jerks or OTT.

9. Last issue of Blue Beetle will be 36. Since I believe that the next one is 33, that means three more after this month.

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biichan November 26 2008, 17:40:23 UTC
if Rani is replacement Maria then she should be crushing on Sarah, imo.

Ah, but she's also mini!Sarah Jane, so I choose to believe that Maria/Rani will neatly ensue if Maria ever comes back to Britain. (In the mean time Clyde and Rani will experiment with being heterosexual with each other to annoy her dad. I'm kind of Zen about the Clyde/Rani and the Luke/Maria they're trying to set up, because I figure the kids can grow up to be swingers.)

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On Fics and Fandoms fourzoas November 26 2008, 18:31:41 UTC
On #3:

The real problem is the correlation between the quality of people's writing and their tendency to be all "ooh, shiny" about the new thing as soon as it comes along and therefore stop writing for whatever the previous ooh-shiny thing was.

I had to chuckle, because this is how I think about academic writing in my field--we follow fashion to be working on the latest/newest/hottest area because that's where the audience is. Which goes, I suppose, to your later point about writers being reluctant to write in a fandom that's developed a bad reputation.

And then this

And there's a lot worth talking about in the fact that most of the badfic writers don't ever really seem to improve very much, because of the Cult of Nice.is something I find intriguing (as a writing teacher) because this is how most of my students tend to deal with peer critique/review/response. One of my students introduced me to Sugar Quill, an HP fanfic archive/comm that is locked down tighter than Fort Knox, but supposedly "produces" amazing fic (I'm planning to ( ... )

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Re: On Fics and Fandoms biichan November 26 2008, 18:46:47 UTC
but supposedly "produces" amazing fic

If you like strict adherence to canon, maybe. At least in ye olden days, they only allowed ships which they deemed to be CANON i.e. One Big Happy Weasley Family ships. And this was before JKR had actually MADE said ships actual canon, so it was especially obnoxious to people who had other ideas back in those days when we only had up to the fifth book.

Bah, HP fandom. I do not miss it one bit.

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Re: On Fics and Fandoms fourzoas November 26 2008, 19:27:56 UTC
If you like strict adherence to canon, maybe. At least in ye olden days, they only allowed ships which they deemed to be CANON i.e. One Big Happy Weasley Family ships. And this was before JKR had actually MADE said ships actual canon, so it was especially obnoxious to people who had other ideas back in those days when we only had up to the fifth book.

I'm really not one to strictly adhere to canon in the ways that I think you mean it, but this is what makes this topic so interesting to me--how do groups define what is "good" writing in this particular context?

The impression I got from my student was that they were the arbiters of "good" writing for the fandom, but I didn't get a vibe from her that she thought "good" was being defined by adherence to canon--which interests as well, because her perception of how they were defining good may not have been accurate, therefore making her susceptible to misperceptions of the community's purpose and its relevance to her own writing goals/needs.

And now I'm turning ionlylurkhere's post into my own ( ... )

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Re: On Fics and Fandoms biichan November 26 2008, 19:55:28 UTC
The impression I got from my student was that they were the arbiters of "good" writing for the fandom, but I didn't get a vibe from her that she thought "good" was being defined by adherence to canon--which interests as well, because her perception of how they were defining good may not have been accurate, therefore making her susceptible to misperceptions of the community's purpose and its relevance to her own writing goals/needs.

Well, they also had pretty high standards for grammar and punctuation and suchlike for their submissions too, so that might be what she's thinking of. And for all that I know, they may have gotten rid of the shipping rules since I was last in the fandom. I hope so.

(I preferred Fiction Alley. Same high standards, no One Big Happy Weasley Family agenda. But I don't know if Fiction Alley is still around.)

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