poll: guilt and context

[dmnsqrl]

On Sunday I had posted this poll to my journal, jmbt_intp, _infp_ and mbti (I was curious)

A couple of people who participated in the poll at mbti who identify themselves as INTJ thought they might have detected a trend in the INTJ answers and one expressed a wish that the poll had also been crossposted here

Comments

[m_danson]

Q#1... If my personal stupidity/ignorance gets another character killed then I will feel guilty. (This is likely an expected level of competence issue.)

[dmnsqrl]

Just to clarify. When you say "my personal" you mean yours as the player rather than a mistake only on the character's part?

[m_danson]

I usually GM so I was being rather universal in that comment.

Example... My character was a team leader and I the player forgot what type of armour another character had as a result the other PC got killed. My character should have known but *I* forgot... hence I felt really guilty about the other character's death beyond the fact that my character felt bad. It probably wouldn't have happened if I had been paying more attention.

[dmnsqrl]

Ah.... yes.

One of the issues I have sometimes when I'm gaming is whether something was _so_ obvious that my character should have known that someone should have called it to my (as a player) attention. I try hard to pay attention to things but there are times it seems to me that something would be much more obvious if I was 'really' there than having it described to me. (But then part of _that_ is that I have a really hard time visualizing physical things I can't see so I sometimes feel like something would have been much more obvious if I could 'see' it)

ok. this has gotten rambly, I don't know if any of it was interesting.

But I do understand the idea of feeling "oops, I messed that up, not my character. Damn."

[lectrix_lecti]

I've played Fable a lot. In this game, you get a lot more gameplaying fun if you're bad, but I found I struggled with quite a few of the choices I had to make in order to make my character develop into a badass

[isleodreams]

With respect to the second interrogatory . . . I answered other because I would evaluate anew whether or not I can continue to be friends with the transgressor.

[jeroentiggelman]

So would I, but that is in my case not because of guilt, so still "No" for me.

[lilwing123]

HOLY VIRGIN MARY GIVING BIRTH!!!123

That was fast! Critical..critical. When I read the Shakespeare quote my mind immediately screamed INTP!!! LOL Thank you for cross posting - I would answer the poll again if it wasn't pointless :O *waits patiently for the end analysis*

[dmnsqrl]

Oh, I at least don't mind if you answer here, too. I wasn't going to answer more than one of the polls myself at first but my boyfriend suggested instead I answer all of them and just factor it in so that I could compare against each population.... it was an interesting thought. (I might wait a day or two before doing it here, though, as I waited a few days after the initial post before putting my answers in the others)

[lilwing123]

You're definitely the fastest replier EVER. What was that? 3 minutes?!?!!

Okay. Well, it feels a bit silly answering a poll directed at INTJs (but apparently not hangin around here, constantly xD) but maybe after you do it, I'll cough up enough courage to. Though, the INTJs uniformity just looks nice. Uhhh. lol SO you have a boyfriend! How's that going? :O

Mind if I ask which type he is? I'm a data collector myself but SHHHH lol

[dmnsqrl]

hehe, he is the one I referred to in the 'number crunching' reply back at mbti as replying 'I tested infp once, but I think it might have been wrong'

We're still trying to pin him down for sure... he's certainly s-ier and sj-ier than I am... but... I'm pretty darn N and NP

(I once joked I was looking for a guy "Just a touch more masculine than [reference INTJ female friend]" I'm not sure I'd describe kr1mz0n_ghoti only that way, he's definitely his own individual snowflake, but he's also definitely got an optimal combination of not-me bits and me-interface-capable protocols :)

[bronxelf_ag001]

I don't really "do" guilt. I deal with matters of conscience *before* a choice, not wrestle with them afterwards. To do otherwise seems wildly inefficient.

And what other people do is a result of their choices. Not mine. Why would I feel guilty about the choices of others?

That being said, I also find it unlikely that I would role play outside my own moral code. If I wanted to have another moral code, I would simply have one. I see no need to "pretend" I have another one, in a game or otherwise.

[dmnsqrl]

I think there are people who feel that taking on a role that involves a different moral code than their personal moral code gives them better insight into people with moral codes other than their own..... but I can definitely also resonate with someone preferring to only roleplay characters whose moral code is the same as his or her personal moral code. I think I personally usually end up in tension between the two desires.

[night_princess]

> And what other people do is a result of their choices. Not mine. Why would I feel guilty about the choices of others?

I completely agree with that.

[wulfmadchen]

Seconded.