I've had a whole lovely day of deep thought and consideration regarding the future of this community, and this is what it comes down to
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There are a number of communities that cover a broad range of topics on the LJ situation. Most of them are on GJ or IJ, however. I can provide some links if anyone is interested.
regarding f-locks: what if I post some kind of discussion here that I want to link to from other comms? I've submitted a link to my essay/analysis & discussion (further down) to metafandom and I don't want to post to my personal journal about this, having had troll attacks there before.
Let me put it this way. If you're concerned about a troll going for your journal for posting something, you probably shouldn't be posting it anywhere if you don't want to attract trolls. You can copy/paste it to that post under an LJ cut, if you want, but the f-lock principle is to avoid people who aren't members of the community coming in and flaming people for their opinions.
They do tend to clutter up the place and are usually not very helpful - as the majority of them tend to say the same thing. What if there were a post in which people could comment with a link to their essay or rant in their own journal or wherever it is? Maybe that would be an alternative the mods would consider?
no flocking, pleasemllesatineAugust 21 2007, 17:22:04 UTC
From now on this community is going to be friends only, and I'm going to ask you all to go back to your posts and f-lock them.
A lot of people used innocence_jihad posts for their own references/researches/entries. I don't think it's fair to them (and their readers) to lock everything down. It's also not fair to the users outside off LJ who want to be informed about what's going on with 6A/LJ.
There are a lot of great posts (like the original hitlist of the WfI) that should stay public because they deal with interests of public opinion. Please reconsider the flocking thing.
Re: no flocking, pleasebuggeryAugust 21 2007, 18:07:01 UTC
I agree. Couldn't we just have the comm's default settings be to only allow posts and comments from members? That would keep the trolling down while at the same time allowing this community to continue to be a resource for LJ users (and former LJ users -- do we really want to make it so people unfairly kicked off LJ in the future can't see anything in this community?) who want to follow current events relating to fandom deletions.
I would've said, a day or so ago, that allowing non-members to post comments so that LJ representatives could respond to us here might be worthwhile, but anildash's recent comments achieved rather the opposite of making me believe any good might come of dialogue with LJ staff in this venue.
Re: no flocking, pleasefor_the_nonceAugust 21 2007, 18:41:33 UTC
"Couldn't we just have the comm's default settings be to only allow posts and comments from members? "
I think this is a much better idea than f-locking the community. If we make all of our entries private, then what's the point of the community? Shouldn't we be persuading others to our viewpoint or, at the very least, allowing other lj users to see the facts and data we have collected? Just my $0.02.
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At this point, it's our last option. We need to sink or swim, and it's time we start building a raft.
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Let me put it this way. If you're concerned about a troll going for your journal for posting something, you probably shouldn't be posting it anywhere if you don't want to attract trolls. You can copy/paste it to that post under an LJ cut, if you want, but the f-lock principle is to avoid people who aren't members of the community coming in and flaming people for their opinions.
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I don't think getting rid of essays are a bad idea if they're looking at the situation from a different angle, or analyzing it, but that's my opinion.
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A lot of people used innocence_jihad posts for their own references/researches/entries. I don't think it's fair to them (and their readers) to lock everything down. It's also not fair to the users outside off LJ who want to be informed about what's going on with 6A/LJ.
There are a lot of great posts (like the original hitlist of the WfI) that should stay public because they deal with interests of public opinion. Please reconsider the flocking thing.
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I would've said, a day or so ago, that allowing non-members to post comments so that LJ representatives could respond to us here might be worthwhile, but anildash 's recent comments achieved rather the opposite of making me believe any good might come of dialogue with LJ staff in this venue.
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I think this is a much better idea than f-locking the community. If we make all of our entries private, then what's the point of the community? Shouldn't we be persuading others to our viewpoint or, at the very least, allowing other lj users to see the facts and data we have collected? Just my $0.02.
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