This Now Means I HaveTo See DKR At Least Three Times...

[indian_skimmer]

This may get added to as my elderly memory kicks in (I'm out of the habit of taking a notebook to the pictures). The fact I've been to a Marvel movie not once but twice is a worrying development.

Comments

[sweet_exile]

I assumed that on the Helicarrier the Hulk was under the influence of Loki's staff. The whole 'you brought the monster thing'.

[indian_skimmer]

Ah, is that how it works? I have little memory of Hulk apart from a Saturday morning cartoon, and I'm not sure how controllable/uncotrollable he is in this 'verse. I assumed it was just nearly being blown up that set him off on the helicarrier (is that what we're meant to call it?).

[sweet_exile]

Well that's what I think at least. From Bruce picking up the staff in the lab and all the bickering before that. That was Loki exaggerating the negative emotions in everyone right?

[indian_skimmer]

Yes, I thought the staff was making people bitchier (although that seems unnecessary, they were doing quite well as it was) but I didn't figure it made Hulk crosser when he was Hulk. Also there was apparently character development that I didn't realise was as pivotal as it was (as below).

[indian_skimmer]

Ah, okay, there was apparent character development that I entirely missed there (and the thing with the staff, which I got a bit confused by too). I feel they glossed over that a bit.

Sadly it's not here (or I don't think it is, I've been moved on by ushers after the Darkseid scene both times), I got overly curious and googled. It's very short but just the idea of it is funny.

[fringedweller]

I'm not particularly invested in the Avengers other than I like films where things blow up and attractive men wear tight clothes, but I didn't think the Black Widow came out of it that badly. Her moment of awesome was lower key, but she out-tricked the trickster god and she figured out how to shut the portal. Being smart is awesome.

[indian_skimmer]

I loved both the interrogation scenes, I thought they were very smart, and very smartly played. It was just a shame she had to look a bit silly when they did the big circular sweeping 'we've all got powers' shot and all she had was a tiny handgun.

I think the appeal of films where stuff blows up and men wear tight clothes and.or armour to women generally is hugely under-rated. Everyone assumes we want to talk about our feelings, or shoes, rather than ranking Avengers according to bicep measurement and blowing the crap out of CGI aliens.

[writan_bur]

"Hawkeye's unaccountably appealing, given that he does get reduced to having 'sitting up high' as his superpower. He's also, possibly tiny-but-fierce but that may be comparative rather than absolute."

I totally agree with you. I also keep thinking that he reminds me of a cricketer, but I cannot figure out who...

As for the Hulk, my friend and I had wondered whether the difference is due to accidental versus intentional transformation, but the theories in other comments make more sense I guess.

[indian_skimmer]

Oh god he *does*! That's going to bug me now. He has a certain Boucher-like grumpiness and assumption that everyone else is a bit rubbish, but I'm not sure that's it... Is it something to do with the hair, or with what fringedweller describes as the scrunchy-faced-ness?

I'm comforted by the fact that other people have lots of different Hulk explanations, it makes it less likely that there was one obvious one I completely missed out on.

[writan_bur]

My initial thought was Eoin Morgan but I don't think that's it... maybe the general attitude? It's almost a bit Graeme-ish...

Yes, it certainly sounds that way. Maybe they didn't actually have an explanation!