Third Time's The Charm (Iron Man 3)

May 05, 2013 19:52

I do love the Romford Vue cinema. Because the house lights came up at a key point during my viewing of Skyfall the patrons were given a free pass for a future film. The first real opportunity I've had to use it was last week to see Iron Man 3. I'd expected a bit of hassle at the paydesk, but was even offered a choice of 'VIP' seats (like-for- ( Read more... )

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lil_shepherd May 5 2013, 19:05:20 UTC
I should probably mention that I am not a superhero-comic reader - the last time I read one was in the mid 60s, when I was in my teens and the age group at which the comics were aimed.

Your pants should be on fire. From the 80s onward, I did not collect X-Men and disliked Wolverine and you collected both. You were also the person who collected Batman in excessive quantity while I was collecting JLI and Sandman and, later, Nightwing and Birds of Prey. I certainly did not have anything to do with Weapon X of which we have, I believe, a complete set.

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inamac May 6 2013, 15:13:40 UTC
Be fair, I got Weapon X for the Barry Windsor Smith artwork. And I'm not sure that it, or Arkham Asylum count as 'superhero comics'. Maybe I should have said '60s four-color process comic books' which is what this reminded me most of (even if it is based on a modern pretentious painted book).

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lil_shepherd May 6 2013, 16:04:45 UTC
True, but collecting for the art doesn't mean you didn't read superhero comics - and the Batman and Dark Knight collections are definitely yours, as are the Byrne/Claremont X-Men which I didn't need to buy as Marvel Masteworks because I'd read them in the originals...

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darklotus1211 May 6 2013, 04:09:40 UTC
I went with my boys and two of their friends to see this about a week and a half ago ( ... )

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inamac May 6 2013, 15:08:59 UTC
I actually found it quite enjoyable while watching it, although completely forgettable once I'd finished.

You've summed it up much better than I did!

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fatpie42 May 6 2013, 14:26:33 UTC
I'm not sure what the fire-drug thingy has to do with cancer. I mean I suppose it could heal that about as well as anything. However, in the movie we clearly see that it allows a woman to regrow her arm that she'd lost during her time in the army. Not sure why you'd need a comic to explain that for you.

I had no idea about the parachuting hook-up thing because I stopped watching trailers for the movie fairly early on. I think these movies work a lot better if you haven't allowed trailers to tell you everything that is going to happen.

But yeah, I'd say the best thing about this was the humour. Clearly the comedy didn't work for you. Comedy is often a pretty personal thing. Have you seen Shane Black's other movie "Kiss Kiss Bang Bang"?

Though can you seriously say you didn't laugh when they said the Mandarin was 'the toast of Croydon'?

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inamac May 6 2013, 15:07:09 UTC
I have a real problem with the sort of humour that laughs at people, rather than with them, particularly those which 'mock the afflicted' - one reason I find things like Fawlty Towers and The Office unwatchable. Which is why I found both the Hoppy and Mandarin sequences embarrassing rather than funny. I don't think I noticed the Croydon line.

I didn't see the parachuting trailer either, but it was obvious early on in the sequence how it was going to end, so not as suspenseful as it might have been.

I've seen Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, and remember enjoying it - but that's about all.

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fatpie42 May 6 2013, 15:19:06 UTC
one reason I find things like Fawlty Towers and The Office unwatchable

I know what you mean about "The Office". Utterly horrible show and I don't find it funny at all. But I've always really enjoyed "Fawlty Towers". How do you feel about "Black Books" or "Father Ted", since surely they have jokes at the expense of the characters too?

I don't think I noticed the Croydon line.
'They say his Lear was the toast of Croydon. Wherever that is'.
:D

it was obvious early on in the sequence how it was going to end

With them all dying?

Seriously, I don't know how you could have guessed that he was going to be able to get them all to link hands. It's not like it could ever have worked in real life because people would most likely have panicked too much for it to be possible. (Plus that whole "I can electrify your arm" thing was a new one on me.) It was about as far from predictable as you can get.

I've seen Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, and remember enjoying it - but that's about all.

I'd have thought that was probably the aim of the movie. ;)

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lil_shepherd May 6 2013, 16:12:14 UTC
I think we've seen one episode of Black Books and a couple of Father Ted and are unenthusiastic about both.

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lokifan May 10 2013, 08:56:49 UTC
A cute male kid - which squandered at least one chance for having an effective female in the film.

! Pepper was totally effective! Among other things, she is the one who defeated the villain!

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lil_shepherd May 12 2013, 05:08:13 UTC
She spent most of the film tied to the railway tracks!

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lokifan May 13 2013, 04:53:48 UTC
'Most of'? Nah, not even most of her screentime. We see her CEO-ing and saying no to Killian's manipulations, relationship time with Tony, being totally right about getting out of the house (although I like her rescuing Maya in the suit, that is also Tony protecting her). And although she gets kidnapped, she is still the one who defeats and kills Killian, saving Tony. She doesn't spend 'most of' the film tied to the railway tracks and although I think there's lots of room for disagreement overall, SHE KILLS THE FINAL BOSS ALONE and survives Extremis. That is not ineffective.

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lil_shepherd May 13 2013, 05:47:57 UTC
1. She was out of it and tied to the railway tracks for at least half the film.

2. She was anything but an effective CEO. It is not the CEO's job to check up on the security chief, she did not deal with Killian effectively, and allowed him to flirt with her, and she plainly has lost control of Tony (which comic book Pepper never has, even though she does not sleep with him.)

3. The suit business annoyed me because they were teasing us with Rescue but not following through. (Rescue is Pepper's super-hero identity as part of team Iron Man in the comics.)

4. At the end she is effective only because of Extremis. And because of the way Extremis is handled in this stupidly-plotted movie there is no reason she should have survived, it's just part of the EVERYBODY LIVES philosophy.

5. As you say, she has a couple of moments of effectiveness, but both are not something she really has agency in. In the first she has been placed in the Iron Man suit by Tony and is particularly clumsy in it, and the second is merely because of Extremis ( ... )

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