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So.
Jess kissed me. At the Halloween dance.
And we made out.
A lot. And it was awesome.
And didn't talk about what it means afterward. I'm pretty sure she wouldn't talk about it unless I brought it up, but bringing it up last time turned out to be a really huge fiasco.
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Jess kissed me. At the Halloween dance.
And we made out.
A lot. And it was awesome.
And didn't talk about what it means afterward. I'm pretty sure she wouldn't talk about it unless I brought it up, but bringing it up last time turned out to be a really huge fiasco.
Girls are so confusing. You'd think it would be easier with the love ( Read more... )
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[LMFAO so helpful, Jeremy.]
Okay, speaking from experience, just making out or just having sex like the physical part without talking about what it means can be bad. If you're both cool with it being just the physical stuff, it's okay. If one of you gets a different idea about what it all means though? Yeah, that's the part where it can suck.
It was a really different situation for me like I wasn't best friends with her beforehand, and there was a lot of other stuff involved so this could be completely different for you.
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[LMFAO, the most helpful.]
Well, see, I don't know that either of us could get a different idea since we already laid out the feelings part on the table. She knows I'm in love with her and stuff. And she's been the one to kiss me first both times but the physical part's not the problem.
She just, you know, has stuff that holds her back and I wouldn't want to push her, or for her to push herself, into something she wasn't ready for. Delicated line to toe or something.
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[LMFAO Jeremy bows, okay?]
Okay, like I said, it's a really different situation so my advice and experience on the subject might not be relevant. So it wouldn't bother you if she was making out with some other dude in the near future?
Yeah, it's important to toe the line. You definitely don't want to push too much or do the complete opposite either. Some nice middle line is good. I'm really terrible at finding the middle line though, man. It's not easy.
Just be careful. It can get rocky. But I fully encourage making out with someone you're into so don't get me wrong on that, just carefulness is good.
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The stars will shine down upon you some other day, Jeremy.
No, I know. All advice is relevant. I appreciate it or I wouldn't be... writing this. I'm a love elemental but even I need the advice sometimes. It'd really, really bother me even when we were just friends, but I mean. It's her right if she wants to.
I'm usually kind of terrible at it myself but I'm trying to find it so she doesn't feel pressured either way.
I will be! I promise. Carefulness can be good. And hey, it's very good to encourage, so thanks.
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We're all really good at not talking about stuff and sometimes that works out okay! Good even! If it works, it works! Why ruin a good thing?
I mean, what would you talk about? You both know you like each other and you're best friends and you're making out. I don't know.
Also, nice, man. :)
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No idea. People emphasize on the talking thing too much sometimes. Maybe it's just a let-this-develop-organically-as-it-may... thing.
I don't know, either! It's all sort of confusing, but not in a bad way.
Aw, yeah. 8)
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Maybe. I don't know for sure, man. I don't like talking at all as you know.
Hey, as long as it's not confusing in a bad way, that's what matters. 8) Something like that. Just enjoy it.
Go with the flow. :) This may just be a new part of your best friendship that has blossomed like a beautiful rose on a winter's day.
So jealous of your rose, man.
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It's okay. Some people are talkers and some aren't. I think you do pretty good despite that.
Oh, it was enjoyed. It was very much enjoyed.
You'll have your own rose someday, Seth. There will be a rose that blossoms just for you.
And it will be beautiful. :)
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If you're best friends who make out sometimes, aren't you basically in a relationship but without the labels?
I don't ask it, because there needs to be labels at all but if that's what you're both not ready for, maybe you should figure out why you're not ready for it or why she's not?
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Thing is, I'm pretty sure I know why she's not. Ready, that is. And I don't want to push the issue again after what happened last time, so I don't know.
You make a good point, though.
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I meant if it keeps going on where the making out and kissing happens along with the best friendship, it's... kinda the same but without labels. I am not saying that the labels are needed at all. They're not. Not for everyone.
I'm just saying that
What is it that she's not ready for? Is it the labels? If so, you're good. Talking's not really necessary. If you go into this and whatever it is about it that she's not ready for crops up...
Does that make more sense? I'm not going to tell you what to do and I don't know if talking about it will help or make a difference. It might make things turn into a fiasco again, you're right about that. It's just something to keep in mind.
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It's just issues and fears and stuff that kind of influence some of the decision-making process. [He isn't getting into it not because he doesn't trust Noah, as they're bffs but...
It's Jess. It's her feelings and her stuff and he'd feel weird discussing them when he knows she is guarded in that sense.]
Totally makes sense. You are making all the sense in the world, my good friend. I will... play it by ear to see if that's what it is and if there's an opportunity to tackle the issue, I guess?
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