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Nov 10, 2011 03:19

So.

Jess kissed me. At the Halloween dance.

And we made out.

A lot. And it was awesome.

And didn't talk about what it means afterward. I'm pretty sure she wouldn't talk about it unless I brought it up, but bringing it up last time turned out to be a really huge fiasco.

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smokeclears November 12 2011, 08:54:42 UTC
Okay, here's the thing.

If you're best friends who make out sometimes, aren't you basically in a relationship but without the labels?

I don't ask it, because there needs to be labels at all but if that's what you're both not ready for, maybe you should figure out why you're not ready for it or why she's not?

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ibegindreaming November 12 2011, 20:59:29 UTC
Not... really? We kissed once. Made out once. That doesn't really mean basically in a relationship, not that I'd be against that.

Thing is, I'm pretty sure I know why she's not. Ready, that is. And I don't want to push the issue again after what happened last time, so I don't know.

You make a good point, though.

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smokeclears November 13 2011, 02:35:37 UTC
No, that's not really what I meant. I'm bad at words, but we know this.

I meant if it keeps going on where the making out and kissing happens along with the best friendship, it's... kinda the same but without labels. I am not saying that the labels are needed at all. They're not. Not for everyone.

I'm just saying that

What is it that she's not ready for? Is it the labels? If so, you're good. Talking's not really necessary. If you go into this and whatever it is about it that she's not ready for crops up...

Does that make more sense? I'm not going to tell you what to do and I don't know if talking about it will help or make a difference. It might make things turn into a fiasco again, you're right about that. It's just something to keep in mind.

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ibegindreaming November 13 2011, 03:52:01 UTC
Oh! Well, I suppose I first have to see if it's something that keeps on happening or it was a just one time thing. It's not like I'm going to assume anything. Assumptions can be very bad.

It's just issues and fears and stuff that kind of influence some of the decision-making process. [He isn't getting into it not because he doesn't trust Noah, as they're bffs but...

It's Jess. It's her feelings and her stuff and he'd feel weird discussing them when he knows she is guarded in that sense.]

Totally makes sense. You are making all the sense in the world, my good friend. I will... play it by ear to see if that's what it is and if there's an opportunity to tackle the issue, I guess?

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smokeclears November 13 2011, 05:08:04 UTC
Yeah, they can be. So no assumptions yet, I think it's very wise of you to play it by ear.

[Noah definitely understands, and he asked the question more to explain what he meant than get a definitive answer.

Since Jess' reasons are her own, and he wouldn't want to know them unless it came from her specifically.]

I know it's not easy though, but I do want you both to be happy more than anything else.

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ibegindreaming November 15 2011, 01:41:30 UTC
Hey, I get it. And I appreciate and understand the concern and the advice and everything.

I wouldn't want to delude myself into thinking I can handle something I can't, or be satisfied with something when I won't.

I will play it by ear and be smart about it or at the very least try to, okay?

No worries from my end.

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