On orgasm, both mechanical and transcendent.

[i_ate_my_crusts]

I've had half a week of considering orgasm.

It all started with this link, posted to the Third Row email gestalt, I think, from memory

Now, the interesting thing about that link is not the content, per se. I forwarded it to a male friend who is thoughtful, cogent and analytical, and his first reaction in sms was this:

"TL;DR version: I don't think

Comments

[alexmc]

I believe that there are various exercises males can do to try and disassociate orgasm/transcendent from ejaculation/mechanical. It is important to realise the two aren't the same thing, if you care about such things.

[i_ate_my_crusts]

Which is fine, if you experience both to start with. I think that's where my male friend felt belittled, in that he's not sure he's ever had an orgasm, but he doesn't think that makes him any lesser. Hence "problematising the male orgasm" comment.

[i_ate_my_crusts]

orgasm, compared to ejaculation, I should say.

[alexmc]

I think I understand.

[surliminal]

I'm tempted to say something like life's too short to stuff an orgasm.. it would be interesting to do a study asking transsexuals about their orgasms tho..

[i_ate_my_crusts]

An orgasm is an orgasm. Like everything else in life, it's fun to play with.

...and I'm really not sure I follow your logic there, at all.

[surliminal]

Sure thing - it was just a weird thought that made me laugh (I'm v tired); and um, second thought was just the fairly obvious thing I thought that if there is any psychological as opposed to purely physical reasons for commonly observed diff between female and male orgasms (you said you were gonna read the science) , this might be one way to get data on it.. and then I started to think about pre and post op and thought that'd be REALLY intersting..! I suspect myself I have a much more "male" orgasm than most women - pretty short and sharp but I've never had trouble having one in my life. swings and roundabouts! :-) I'm not sure I've ver had anything "transcendent"/..

[i_ate_my_crusts]

I don't think "male" orgasms are that easily classifyable as short and sharp, are they?

My male friend said that he'd heard that wtih written descriptions of orgasm, most people couldn't tell whether they were written by a male or female. So I'm dubious that there's any real difference, myself. Hence chasing the science, though.

[seawasp]

I'm not able to differentiate the two things, AFAICT. Of course it's pleasurable, and of course it's BETTER with someone else rather than myself, but the core sensations are the same.

[mireille21]

My natural inclination was towards noise. Through the experience of sharehousing I learned to become very very quiet (which i recall as actually being a bit challenging.) Even though I haven't sharehoused in years, now, I think if I tried to make noise it would feel unnatural, but it does make e wonder if this means I've lost any of my earlier uninhibitedness.

[rparvaaz]

I think I wouldn't even have known what the difference might be if you had written this a few years ago. These days i would describe transcendent ones as the ones that leave you utterly drained...and with some disquiet inside because it feels like you have given too much... immensely pleasurable while they last but have after-effects. Physical and emotional.

Mechanical orgasms are simpler - fun, pleasurable, satisfying but nothing deeper.