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Jul 22, 2012 23:21

You ever get to that state where there are far too many half-formed thoughts steaming around in your head like bricks in a spin-dryer, and you're waiting for the first one to come leaping out the front in a hail of glass shards and builder's rubble ( Read more... )

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reddragdiva July 22 2012, 22:53:06 UTC
I have been having inchoate thoughts along these lines. Basically, culture is not about aesthetics. There is only so much stuff to learn about any band, in any given subculture, in any given genre, in any given medium - after a while, more albums really aren't worth spending time on. So we learn our aesthetic vocabulary in a couple of years and then it's stuck. You can in fact pick up new ones, but the process is work. And you'll probably learn them relative to the first one. As I said, it's not fully formed, but I'm reasonably sure there's something useful there.

And holy goddamn fuck the new visual editor for LJ comments sucks dingo balls. I demand a 24x80 green screen at 2400 baud, like I spent the second half of 1996 using.

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valkyriekaren July 22 2012, 23:03:41 UTC
The only people who think Janice Raymond is not a dangerous nutbar are Julie Bindel and her acolytes (who incidentally also direct their hate towards female bisexuals, as obviously being bi means we have a choice whether to sleep with men or women, and if we sleep with women we're traitors). rozk is the person to read on what this particular branch of radfem means for trans people, of course.

But yeah. The stuff you get excited about when you're young always seemed like it was so fresh and thrilling, even if it was the most derivative thing in the world, because you knew cock-all then. Same with politics - young people see things in black and white, them and us, and once you've seen a bit of the world, you find yourself laughing at their wide-eyed idealism or muttering cynically into your pint, "I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that."

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hirez July 23 2012, 07:38:14 UTC
Yes. I have been cheering on Roz (and Paris et al) from the sidelines of Twitter. Well, I say 'cheering'. I mean 'reading and thinking rather a lot'.

Absolutely. I was being drawn in to a political argument on the FB when one of the protagonists started banging on about 'well we believe that...' which meant that any further finger-action would be a complete waste of time.

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valkyriekaren July 23 2012, 11:49:04 UTC
of course, my post above should have read, "and if we sleep with men we're traitors", though clearly the converse makes about as much logical sense.

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hirez July 23 2012, 11:59:40 UTC
I read the (Guardian?) article in question so managed to flywheel over that bit...

Is it me, or does the whole notion of 'false consciousness' more or less deny any sort of agency?

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nemesis_to_go July 23 2012, 06:02:57 UTC
Of course, it could all be down to dopamineI don't think that's a universal phenomenon, though. I think some people remain full-on dopamine processors throughout their lives. Case study No. 1: John Peel ( ... )

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hirez July 23 2012, 12:05:36 UTC
I've not been paying, er, any attention to what's popular with the gothics, so if there's more eighties cheese than there was the last time I looked I can only be mildly horrified.

Perhaps there's something curiously addictive about the noise of FM synthesis and/or shit 8-bit samples.

Maria and the Mirrors are very good indeed. I don't know where I found them but it was probably via a link in yr FB, so ta very much.

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reddragdiva July 30 2012, 19:26:32 UTC
All three? You mean Ian Craig Marsh has shown his face in public again?

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nemesis_to_go August 4 2012, 20:48:33 UTC
Yes, although he did bugger off after a couple of songs. One of which was the demo version of 'Temptation' - to show us what the song sounded like in its original home studio arrangement (and also, I suspect, because Claudia Brucken can't sing like Carol Kenyon).

ICM looks disturbingly like Arthur Daley these days.

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steer July 23 2012, 11:31:28 UTC
"is there a term for premature generalisation?"

Greedy reductionism sort of is.

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