Comments | hated_character: Inspired by <strong class="lj-user"><a href="/read/user/evillottie">evillottie</a></strong>'s Sakura rant

sarajayechan in hated_character

Inspired by evillottie's Sakura rant

Dec 15, 2009 16:25

Heroes and Heroines simply cannot win. (Be they male or female)

( Cut because this got long )

crying "real heroes suffer!", double standard, crying "hero = gary stu!", crying "heroine = mary sue", fanbutt hypocrisy alert!, heroes simply can't win

Comments 17

sakru909 December 15 2009, 21:49:11 UTC

Yes, I agree with all of this. There are legitimate Mary Sues, of course, but not every main character is one.

I hate when people criticize characters just because they aren't good looking or even just because they look pretty. It's just so shallow, I don't even know where to begin.

sarajayechan December 16 2009, 05:31:12 UTC

I know, right? D:

...your icon. Would the Ayra you refer to by any chance be Ayra from Fire Emblem: Seisen no Keifu?

sakru909 December 16 2009, 23:26:50 UTC

The Arya referred to in the icon is the one from A Song of Ice and Fire.

sarajayechan December 18 2009, 20:13:13 UTC

...I thought so, but I'm used to seeing it spelled Arya.

night_is_fallen December 15 2009, 21:53:16 UTC

So much word to all of this. You've just hit the nail on the head of SO MANY THINGS that annoy me about fandom.

sir_hellsing December 15 2009, 22:09:11 UTC

Heroes win in Twelve Kingdoms. IDK is because it's so well written or because the fandom is mature, but I have never seen anyone complaining about the main characters or bashing them after they develop (obviously, Youko and co were written unsympathetic in the beginning, people were supposed to complain)?

I think some protests are attached to poor writing or mediocre handling of the characterization and development. Not necessary the immaturity of the audience (although I admit this ALSO plays a big role). The biggest problem is when you have the two together.

sarajayechan December 16 2009, 05:30:04 UTC

Sounds awesome. =)

Yeah, sometimes the writers just aren't up to snuff even if they try. :/

sir_hellsing December 16 2009, 05:43:53 UTC

If you haven't seen it or read it, I encourage you to.

That's the problem sometimes. It's that when handled bad a storyarc for a characters they messed up. Either because they overlook their flaws or water them down to make them more "sympathetic" which makes the readers have the OPPOSITE reaction. Haters will hate, always, but sometimes the bashing is linked to poor writing and development and while it wasn't intented that way, a character is demonized by the author's mistakes.

daisy_the_mage1 December 15 2009, 22:27:44 UTC

I'm favouriting this! I thought of something similar but you've put it way better than I could have!

akai_senshi December 16 2009, 23:46:39 UTC

Thank you for pointing out all of the double standards about heroes. It was much appreciated.