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Feb 08, 2013 20:34

The Governor declared the roads closed in Massachusetts at 4 pm this afternoon, when there was perhaps 2" of snow on the ground ( Read more... )

intellectual liberal, winter is coming, new england, sheeple

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ssterikoff February 9 2013, 02:00:26 UTC
When you are dealing with sensible people, it doesn't. When you are dealing with morons, it does. Unfortunately, sometimes a lot of morons are out and about.

Here: a moron was speeding through our neighborhood this evening on a dirtbike? motorcycle? Either way, the speed was excessive for a road with 4-5 inches of snow on it. I figured if he wiped out in the school parking lot, the most I would do would be calling 911 and advising them, I wasn't going to go out in it.

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crazyburro February 9 2013, 02:15:32 UTC
So any time a moron could do something stupid we should apply a blanket prohibition on that behavior?

The gov has shown a recent tendency to treat the entire state as a unit - e.g. the hurricane a few months ago he closed schools across the state, even though 3/4ths of the state was unaffected.

Here in my town today, the school district was quite happy to be open until noon - based on expected local conditions - until the Governor decided all schools should be closed. Perhaps they would have made a different decision this morning, but it never came to that since the gov made the call last night based on a forecast. Seems he doesn't think locals are competent in their own affairs.

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likethewatch February 9 2013, 06:08:15 UTC
I'm glad the governor closed the roads. Otherwise, employers require their employees to stay on the job, risking their lives to get to and from these workplaces instead of staying home like we all should be doing when the roads look like this. And the roads belong to the governments, don't they? I think they should get to decide that they can't keep them plowed for safe travel, so you will have to stay off them. That's not the nanny state. That's acting entitled to something that ain't yours (individually... communally? sure. but since we're not communally going out there filling potholes and what not, it's not yours in the way your driveway is.)

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crazyburro February 9 2013, 12:42:39 UTC
I see. So the local towns people, who provide the labor and management to clear the roads, run the schools, provide basic services, are too stupid to make the decision for their own towns?

Sheep.

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akilika February 9 2013, 02:52:08 UTC
Same thing happened in Utica. Fortunately, I live in Utica and was WELL out of work by the time the warning went, but... still, WTF?

I seem to recall the same thing happened with the hurricane. The same hurricane that totally and utterly missed Utica. (And I risked being noncompliant by staying at work, but ... y'know, REAL overtime versus potential police strife...)

In short? I hear ya, Dally. I do.

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docstrange February 9 2013, 03:22:00 UTC
Yes. This is the trend and you're spot-on that it should disturb responsible adults. It is government by statistic, invented under the auspices of Louis XIV by Colbert and perfected to the point of industrial farming today. It is essentially farming people. Treat all people as the lowest common denominator. Treat people as children, because children are everywhere, even some adults can't handle it. Ensure outcomes based on gross statistics - tests passed, years lived, goods harvested.


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gwendally February 9 2013, 05:02:23 UTC
The new mantra is that you shouldn't do anything that would endanger first responders.

The base assumption in there is that we need to sit down and shut up and not cause our keepers any trouble. It goes hand in glove with the assumption that we should expect rescuing.

I think it's really interesting that we have come to require that first responders not be endangered. I remember when they were brave and selfless. Now they are government workers with generous disability coverage that is broadly used after they get a back injury transporting obese people from Walmart parking lots.

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likethewatch February 9 2013, 06:09:48 UTC
You don't think EMT workers deserve workers comp?

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crazyburro February 9 2013, 12:56:14 UTC
I don't Dally's comment as saying that.

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kayjayuu February 9 2013, 10:15:17 UTC
I still laugh heartily at how a storm like this is treated with such shock-and-awe out your way, but here in the heartland we close our roads for storms like that too. Mostly because we're spread out over a larger area and yes, our first responders don't want to have to go out and rescue your behind because you were dumb enough to go around the barrier on the interstate ramp and are now stuck in snow 20 miles from anywhere. In your shorts. *hits dummy upside the head*

And if those first responders are out helping the dummies, that means they aren't out helping the people who actually need assistance, as in ambulances and actual crime and such.

The plows will be out in the morning and we'll be able to get around just fine. You guys... not so much. Because you have a gazillion more people and it seems like everyone panics. Or at least the weathermen.

Of course, out here, winter will kill you. So we tend to respect it. But there are those who just think they're special.

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