Re: He'll Release Dance when the Series DebutsfubatsuOctober 21 2009, 23:01:59 UTC
I think that is a reasonable guess, especially from a PR/Marketing standpoint.
I wonder if the number of frustrated and aggravated fans will show any impact on overall book sales. I hear/read so many comments of late in the "I'm just not buying the next book" theme, but (a) is this just bluffing and (b) if it isn't bluffing, do you think enough people have had enough to where it will be noticeable in book sales?
I'm past several points of actual concern now, I do know I won't be buying any more of the books (I may pick them up used once the series is actually done, and that's a strong maybe) - now I just enjoy checking in and going "Still? Wow."
I do think I will check out Erikson's stuff though.
Re: He'll Release Dance when the Series Debutsfat_tomOctober 23 2009, 16:40:58 UTC
I must admit, I will buy the book no matter what. GRRM would have to dedicated all proceeds to the Klan before I'd consider otherwise. Like, borrowing it from the library or something....
George can't possibly finish the series
anonymous
October 22 2009, 05:55:38 UTC
George is what 62 now? So even if he finishes this book this year there will be 2 more books left (unless he decides to add more). Then 10 years to finish the other 2 books which will make him 72. Do people live to be 72...the lucky ones do yes but I just don't see them working full time on a novel. I think this site started off as a joke but I honestly don't think this series will or even can be finished. I think I come here just to keep hoping?? I think we'll get but 6 but no 7. Without an ending whats the point.
Re: George can't possibly finish the seriesgrrrmOctober 22 2009, 16:41:14 UTC
see, this is a good point. at a certain age, you just stop caring and you don't want to be bothered. we are seeing a serious lack of motivation, which is typical with those over the age of 60. a person hits 60 an is looking at retirement, not spitting out over 2000 pages for a novel. He should really just let Erikson finish it. He could have the old gods and seven come to Westeros and unleash a path of destruction never seen destroying everyone. Just like Valaria.
Re: George can't possibly finish the series
anonymous
October 26 2009, 06:25:50 UTC
I don't know how long GRRM will be among the living, but his (somewhat less portly) idol Jack Vance wrote many of his best-regarded books in his sixties. His powers didn't really start to decline until he was in his mid-seventies. (IMO, he didn't put out a subpar novel until Ecce and Old Earth, written when he was 75.)
Of course, (1) Vance was always a highly prolific author and (2) GRRM doesn't really seem to care much about the series anymore. The man writes at an elephant's pace; and it's not hard to avoid finishing a thousand-page novel if you're not particularly dedicated to the job.
What about the money? Someone else should finish the book!
anonymous
October 25 2009, 08:18:07 UTC
Clash of Kings and Storm of Swords were both NYtimes bestsellers. Don't you think he got a massive advance to write A Feast for Crows? I think he did, and I also think he knows that the only way out of this mess is to fufill his contract or to shake off his mortal coil
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Re: What about the money? Someone else should finish the book!
anonymous
October 26 2009, 06:36:13 UTC
Count of Monte Cristo??? You kidding me?? Thats one old fashioned written book. I don't know how your able to stand the slow pace of the novels back then. Oh well, more power to you I guess. Still a little envious of you. You found other authors you liked and alas I'm waiting for George Martin still. Haven't found any I like half as much.
Re: What about the money? Someone else should finish the book!
anonymous
October 26 2009, 10:06:52 UTC
I'd be surprised if you weren't familiar with them, but back when I was on my GRRM jones, I thought Guy Gavriel Kay's historical fantasy novels and Robin Hobb's Liveship Traders trilogy (but not her other works, which owe less of a debt to GRRM) were respectable ASoI&F substitutes. There are other fantasy authors I prefer to GRRM (Vance, Wolfe, maybe Leiber or Le Guin), but they mined different veins.
Re: What about the money? Someone else should finish the book!
anonymous
October 31 2009, 20:47:56 UTC
What do you mean that's one old fashioned book? Monte Cristo is awesome!: revenge, drugs, infantcide, lesbians...
A lot of old books are like that, actually: they're filled with crazy stuff like that. People think they're dry but they're actually filled with some pretty hardcore stuff. Dumas never went into details such as nipple-biting technique, but still, just because authors didn't graphic on the sex doesn't mean they weren't writing vibriant, deep stories filled with dark motivations. Actually, a lot of them, that's why they're famous in the first place.
Wonder what GRRM will be upto over at the site of the sets in Ireland and Morocco. I bet he will try to sell autographed copies of his books to the cast. :P
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I wonder if the number of frustrated and aggravated fans will show any impact on overall book sales. I hear/read so many comments of late in the "I'm just not buying the next book" theme, but (a) is this just bluffing and (b) if it isn't bluffing, do you think enough people have had enough to where it will be noticeable in book sales?
I'm past several points of actual concern now, I do know I won't be buying any more of the books (I may pick them up used once the series is actually done, and that's a strong maybe) - now I just enjoy checking in and going "Still? Wow."
I do think I will check out Erikson's stuff though.
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Of course, (1) Vance was always a highly prolific author and (2) GRRM doesn't really seem to care much about the series anymore. The man writes at an elephant's pace; and it's not hard to avoid finishing a thousand-page novel if you're not particularly dedicated to the job.
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A lot of old books are like that, actually: they're filled with crazy stuff like that. People think they're dry but they're actually filled with some pretty hardcore stuff. Dumas never went into details such as nipple-biting technique, but still, just because authors didn't graphic on the sex doesn't mean they weren't writing vibriant, deep stories filled with dark motivations. Actually, a lot of them, that's why they're famous in the first place.
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