he manages to make Jane likable despite his arrogance
I'm obviously biased, because I looooooooooooooove Simon Baker, but I would be SO GONE from this show if it weren't for him. I'm not entirely sure I like Patrick, despite how charming Baker makes him, which has more to do with not being sure where his character is being taken. Bruno Heller has earned leeway via Rome, and if that show is any indication, Heller has the ability to make incredibly warped and fundamentally unlikeable characters interesting and fascinating to watch. Vorenus, for example, functions on both strength of writing and portrayal. The man is not likeable, yet I loved watching him. And I'm hoping the same thing will happen with Patrick. I'm really hoping that they're laying the groundwork for some awesome characterization, that the sharp edge here is the Patrick is still the same arrogant asshole who got his family killed five years ago. I have to rewatch 2.02, because I think that whole convo Patrick had with the kid brother, about being sorry... I want to
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I know what you mean about Vorenus, he isn't likable but he was an honorable man but he refused to bend and yet I loved him because the writing and the acting was fantastic. Like you I don't know how to take Patrick, do I like him, like him or do I like him because of Baker's charisma?
It's hard not to compare, right? After Life I compared every cop show to it!
*sigh* unfortunately, it seems that way, when they aired it here and I was so excited to watch I couldn't make myself do it because the music was all wrong. You're right about wanting to cry... Rand, don't let the powers that be dictate your money rights thing! You deserve awesome music for repeats and DVDs!
Vorenus is totally unyielding. It's what makes him fascinating and difficult, it's his strength and his weakness, his greatest virtue and his deepest flaw. And I'm kinda hoping Heller is going for the same thing with Patrick and his arrogance, this double-edged sword. It actually took me awhile to warm up to Vorenus and really get into his character. So yeah, hoping for that for Patrick, too.
After Life I compared every cop show to it!
Same. It's hard not to, since I feel it redefined so much of what has become accepted as a part of the genre while still adhering to the basic format.
Re: music. CRIES. That's, like, all I can really say. CRIES.
Yay for watching it! I actually came about watching Life because I missed DW then my love for this show hit me like a two by four and I never recovered.
I kind of think of The Mentalist as being the opposite of Life. Life is really about uncovering things, while, in a way, the Mentalist is all flash and glitter, trying to use tricks to get to the truth of the matter. At heart, Patrick is a magician. Charlie is a cop.
Hmm... that's actually an interesting point and you're right, at heart Patrick *is* a magician. All about subterfuge, mirrors and tricks while Charlie is fundamentally an honest person *and* a cop. He can't help himself telling the truth even though he dances around it.
In addition, while Life is all about pulling back the curtains and bringing the darkness to light, the Mentalist is more about pulling back the pretty packaging and looking at the darkness inside.
And also, Kimball threatening Patrick with death, destruction and maiming. And lots of kinky sex.
I kind of think of The Mentalist as being the opposite of Life
YES! After this second ep, it's really cemented itself as being the opposite of Life, for all the reasons there. Flash and glitter versus real detective work. Bringing darkness to light versus peeling away the pretty to reveal the ugly. You totally put into words what I've been feeling.
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I'm obviously biased, because I looooooooooooooove Simon Baker, but I would be SO GONE from this show if it weren't for him. I'm not entirely sure I like Patrick, despite how charming Baker makes him, which has more to do with not being sure where his character is being taken. Bruno Heller has earned leeway via Rome, and if that show is any indication, Heller has the ability to make incredibly warped and fundamentally unlikeable characters interesting and fascinating to watch. Vorenus, for example, functions on both strength of writing and portrayal. The man is not likeable, yet I loved watching him. And I'm hoping the same thing will happen with Patrick. I'm really hoping that they're laying the groundwork for some awesome characterization, that the sharp edge here is the Patrick is still the same arrogant asshole who got his family killed five years ago. I have to rewatch 2.02, because I think that whole convo Patrick had with the kid brother, about being sorry... I want to ( ... )
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It's hard not to compare, right? After Life I compared every cop show to it!
*sigh* unfortunately, it seems that way, when they aired it here and I was so excited to watch I couldn't make myself do it because the music was all wrong. You're right about wanting to cry... Rand, don't let the powers that be dictate your money rights thing! You deserve awesome music for repeats and DVDs!
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After Life I compared every cop show to it!
Same. It's hard not to, since I feel it redefined so much of what has become accepted as a part of the genre while still adhering to the basic format.
Re: music. CRIES. That's, like, all I can really say. CRIES.
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And also, Kimball threatening Patrick with death, destruction and maiming. And lots of kinky sex.
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YES! After this second ep, it's really cemented itself as being the opposite of Life, for all the reasons there. Flash and glitter versus real detective work. Bringing darkness to light versus peeling away the pretty to reveal the ugly. You totally put into words what I've been feeling.
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