Comments | greenie_breizh: "It's about whether you think gay people are part of the human condition or a random fetish."

greenie_breizh

"It's about whether you think gay people are part of the human condition or a random fetish."

May 23, 2007 12:46

Where does homosexuality come from: the question we shouldn't be asking ourselves

heikki_cheren just linked me to this episode of 60 minutes on, basically, the origins and manifestations of homosexuality.

( On sexuality, gender identity, femininity and masculinity, and all that good stuff - or what was wrong and/or interesting about these videos )

discussions: being serious, lgbtq: all colors of the rainbow, gender & co, public

Comments 6

heikki_cheren May 23 2007, 14:11:59 UTC

"A couple of times, it was mentioned by both the journalist and the researcher that "it doesn't work 100%""
And even there, the message seemed much less clear than whenever he stated her guess had been right.

greenie_breizh May 23 2007, 14:28:54 UTC

Absolutely - it seemed more of a "there are exceptions to the rule" than a "gay guys aren't necessarily feminine" sort of claim. ARGH.

«The exception to the rule» aislingtheach May 24 2007, 04:32:17 UTC

That one is toooo easy.

Announce a theory. Let someone tell you it doesn't work since she or he can provide examples countering it.

Then declare these are «just mere exceptions to the rule».

And, big winner!, you can feel entitled to stubbornly hold to this theory of yours.

OK, you'll still have to prove the counter examples are minor occurances. But you'll keep the right to say «A are so and so» or «B are so and so», instead of taking the pains of being precise and saying «x% of A are so and so» or «that much of Y are so and so». Plus, you won't have to provide solid and non-binary analyses.

Yay for shoddy theories!! (Am I spelling that right?)

Sadly enough, this paralogism the journalists used on this documentary regarding effeminacy and gay men is widespread :(

Ayoye, t'es en feu!! ;) aislingtheach May 24 2007, 04:09:36 UTC

Tu en fais, toi aussi, des posts fleuves ( ... )

Re: Ayoye, t'es en feu!! ;) greenie_breizh May 24 2007, 08:37:09 UTC

Oui, des fois ça me prend et je fais des posts construits et réfléchis... mais c'est rare! :p (Au passage, j'aimerais bien avoir ton avis sur ce que je blablate dans ce post qui tourne en gros autour des discussions sur la sexualité d'acteurs. On revient finalement un peu au débat public/privé à mon avis ( ... )

lounalune May 24 2007, 11:54:56 UTC

"Saying it is often the simplest way."
I so agree with that. My life got so much more comfortable this school year, when I started just telling everyone! But starting isn't always easy, being in a completely new environment helped. And having a girlfriend. You get many more opportunities to mention your girlfriend in a conversation than to say "Uhm, by the way, I'm gay" without it seeming completely out of place.
(Oh, and I will read that long paragraph you wrote. But not right now, sorry, got to get working.)