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grandpalovegood

The Accidental Horcrux

Apr 28, 2006 12:04

Several questions have been asked about Voldemort at the beginning of GOF. He wasn't really human yet, but still he had a type of physical form. It was a much different form than the way we last saw him at the end of SS.

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grandanois April 28 2006, 18:05:32 UTC

No, that wouldn't make Voldemort the Potters' secret keeper. It's like when Harry arrived at Grimmauld in OotP and Lupin showed him the note from Dumbledore that "told him" about the secret location. That didn't make Harry the new secret keeper, either.

When the secret keeper dies, the secret dies with them. That's the whole point, they can tell other people about the secret, but the people they tell are not able to pass on the information. That way you wouldn't have to worry about how many people knew of your secret, because only ONE person would be able to betray you.

grandpalovegood April 28 2006, 18:14:02 UTC

That's right. thanks for refreshing my memory. ;)

But even with that said... do you think that Wormtail will tell Harry where the house is? Hmm... well it's possible if he feels that he owes him for sparing his life. I guess we'll see soon enough.

grandanois April 28 2006, 18:17:16 UTC

I think Wormtail and Harry are definitely connected in some way, now that Harry has spared Peter's life, but ... I don't know, Peter doesn't seem the person to be sentimental, you know? Perhaps they are bound together by magic.

nods grandpalovegood April 28 2006, 18:32:51 UTC

Yeah I agree that Wormtail would not be very sentimental. But I can't help but wonder how Harry will run into him to get the information. You know Wormtail won't be hanging around public places, like Diagon Alley. You know the Ministry is after him.

((note: I went back to clean up, edit my post notes. thanks ))

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grandanois April 28 2006, 18:14:39 UTC

http://www.hp-lexicon.org/magic/spells/spells_f.html#Fidelius Fidelius Charm.

kcontheroad April 28 2006, 20:27:37 UTC

It all depends on how the secret is worded as to if Harry will be able to get there without Wormtail.

If the secret is, "The Potters are hiding from Voldemort at their house in Godric's Hollow," then there is no secret any more (the Potters aren't hiding) and thus Potter can visit both the house and the grave.

If the secret is "The Potters are in Godric's Hollow" There is again no secret. They're not there any more.

If the secret is "The residence of the Potters is at XX Whatever Lane in Godric's Hollow," then Harry will need Wormtail to tell him where it is as the secret still has meaning.

grandpalovegood April 29 2006, 00:36:27 UTC

I have the feeling that it's probably the last one that you mentioned. It just sounds too easy for Harry to be able to find the house by just strolling the streets looking for a destroyed house in Godric's Hollow. I have considered the other's on your list. But you are right... it's all down to the wording. Something more to look forward to in the story to come. ;)

<< Off topic here for a minute... I can't seem to get in to HP Inc. I had been messing around with my "favorite places" on my computer.. just cleaning up and reorganizing, now I'm not sure what's happened to that link. Hopefully, I didn't delete it by accident. >>

kcontheroad April 29 2006, 14:34:44 UTC

(It's just horrible. Apparently something happened to the host and we may have lost Inc forever. All my lovely theories. . . I wanted to be able to point to them when 7 came out to say SEE! After all, I had correctly predicted DD had to die in 6. )

I wonder that the rubble isn't long cleared. I mean, it was 16 years ago after all. Wouldn't some one who already knew the secret have been by to tidy up? And some one came to take Voldy's wand to him. He couldn't hold it after the 'accident' and yet he had it at Little Hangleton, so at least one person's been back to it. Still, Harry will go there and he will find something there, probably. Or maybe not. Maybe that's the disappointment at the start of the book. There's always a big disappointment early on and that would make sense -- he goes there and finds. . . just the cleared slab of the place.

*headscratch* grandpalovegood April 29 2006, 15:33:49 UTC

((Yes I know what you mean. I was afraid to place this Quibbler idea up on it's own thread at ARF not only because not so many people go there but also I was afraid that SB may say she's closing it down because of lack of people. She's on to other things now a days. Bless her heart. *snickers ( ... )

grandanois April 29 2006, 16:06:50 UTC

This http://grandanois.livejournal.com/10122.html might also help to clear things up.

grandpalovegood October 10 2006, 01:31:13 UTC

Hey Elda. If you see this I'm sure that you can see the crater size holes in it... I have some different views than I did when I wrote this months ago. Lots of brainstorming on WB has helped with some of these discrepancies... just yesterday, I have come to believe that the horcrux spell might also be the one that kill. Not an avada kedrava curse used then the horcrux spell... I do have lots to research... but I do have more to add that might make some of this possible... maybe not somuch the wand but how the horcrux spell works. See ya on the boards...

;) your friend, Skidjit