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Dec 03, 2023 21:24

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matrixmann December 3 2023, 22:58:59 UTC
If there is just some wood left to cut down...
As humans do business - they always take and take and take, but plant nothing new...

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gonzo21 December 5 2023, 21:11:50 UTC
Aye. A lot of the land in scotland was planted with these larch woods 50 or 60 years ago, and they're all ready to be felled now. So increasingly large parts of the hills are getting wiped out like this, and you're right, there is no serious plan to replant anything.

Because which capitalist wants to plant something now that they can't make a profit from in 50 or 60 years time? Nobody thinks that far ahead anymore.

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matrixmann December 5 2023, 23:19:18 UTC
Ah, so the woods from now that are cut down already were a future-oriented project? (If you say "50 or 60 years ago"... I get upon that it might have had to do with WWII and the post-war years...? Having to replant everything because people cut everything naturally-grown down then?)

Thinking 50 or 60 years ahead - the real fat cats live and probably think like "in half a century, I'm no longer alive anymore - so why should I care about anything what's supposed to be then?"...

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pigshitpoet December 3 2023, 23:42:19 UTC
is that a clearcut forest, or clearing land to build on?
either way, looks devastated and desolate

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gonzo21 December 5 2023, 21:09:49 UTC
Clearcut forest. Part of it had been a larch stand that was planted as a crop around 50 years ago, the rest of it up on the hill was ancient scots pine.

I['d bet you their licence was that they could just take the larch, because who ever checks these things.

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pigshitpoet December 7 2023, 01:08:32 UTC
it feels like we live in a war zone, these days..
50 years is a lifetime, two by court standards
the missing larch

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ravena_kade December 4 2023, 11:05:01 UTC

A very poignant poem.

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gonzo21 December 5 2023, 21:03:41 UTC
Thank you. It was sad to have lost that patch of old woods.

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franklanguage December 5 2023, 01:41:31 UTC

This is what they've done to East River Park in new York City; for the past several months-even going on a year-the city has told everybody not to worry about the 1000 trees they're killing-because they'll replace these 100-year-old trees with saplings. They expect the people to believe them, too.

This is why I've left the movement to Save East River Park; I was making signs only to have them ripped down, and yelling only to have my voice drowned out by bulldozers. It's depressing; I live only a few blocks from the once-majestic park, and I've pledged to never go there again.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/oct/31/east-river-park-battle-adapt-climate-change-new-york-city

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gonzo21 December 5 2023, 21:08:15 UTC
It's just awful isn't it.

And of these saplings all these 'green companies' are now planting to 'offset carbon', they're done so badly and so cheaply that the vast majority of them simply die within 6 months of being shot into the ground. But the green companies walk away with huge profits because they've planted trees. And nobody cares that the trees just die.

Supposedly my patch there in the photo is going to be replanted too, but, I doubt it will be. They'd have to put a deer fence up around it, and that's so expensive it probably eats away the potential profit. So, maybe in 20 years time there will be a rough covering of silver birch, maybe. I doubt it because the deer get in and they eat everything sprouting. It will probably still look much like it does today in 20 years time.

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franklanguage December 8 2023, 03:15:26 UTC

Well, in the Nature Bats Last (https://guymcpherson.com) blog, Guy McPherson has been saying for several years that our days are numbered-so numbered, in fact, that humans will be extinct in less than ten years. (And that was when he first started the blog.) So live it up!

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gonzo21 December 8 2023, 15:01:47 UTC
Yeah even just 5 years ago I thought probably the worst societal collapse from climate change was still maybe 80-100 years off. But every year since then we've smashed through warning points that all the models said would still be decades away. So yeah, I agree, I think we maybe do only have 10 or 20 years left before the shit absolutely hits the fan.

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